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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg

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so the dictionary definition of the word

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gobsmacked which is British colloquial

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is utterly astonished astounded and the

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origin from the 1980s believe it or not

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is with reference to being shocked by a

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blow to the mouth or to clapping a hand

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to one's mouth in astonishment so is

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that how we should react to the

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interview last week with Aaron Caplan

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that was thought gobsmacked was like a

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giant loogie to the face but maybe not

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the sound that a loogie makes when it

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hit your face well my gob has been

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smacked after that I'll take it I mean

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yeah that was some people are calling it

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the best show ever some people are

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calling it by far the worst show I'm not

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sure it probably falls somewhere in

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between

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sounds like Charles Dickens it was the

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best of times it was the worst of times

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but you know we've had some really bad

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shows over the years and some were so

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bad they were almost good like you know

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the Ed Wood movies you know plan 9 from

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outer space things like that and this

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was so bad because I think we knew we

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were entering a train wreck before we

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started but I was so curious about this

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guy I mean it's not just because he went

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to the same high school it's not just

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because his last name is the same as my

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wife's maiden name it was because he has

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a education as an aerospace engineer he

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seems to have solid work experience so I

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hesitate to fly in any planes he

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designed I'll tell you well you know he

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you gotta you gotta at least give him

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that he's creative I mean it it's a

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pretty creative theory I haven't had

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chance unfortunately to peruse the PDF

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they posted at the podcast forums but

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based on some of the responses on the

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forum to that self-published book it

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sounds like he's taken everything in the

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kitchen and thrown it in the sink and

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it's turn it up

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good and coming up with a pretty pretty

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wild theory Godley one of the wackier

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theories but I have a feeling in the UFO

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field if you want to search for wacky

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theories you'll find plenty he just

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happens to get it all in one place but

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so interesting the previous week we had

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your own Clark on the show how many

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messages were posted in our forums about

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that appearance and it was one of our

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better shows exactly zero zero right not

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one right but then we get somebody who's

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as wacky as anyone we've had on the show

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in quite a while and guess what the

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message boards are filled with comments

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of course everybody's saying the same

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thing

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isn't he wacky I think people like to

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see train wrecks yeah it's like rubber

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necking on the freeway going past an

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accident so interesting you have an

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accident it's off the road it's not

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affecting traffic physically because

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it's off the road the police fire crews

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are off the road but people stop they

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slow down they have to see it so much

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about Society and interpreting what goes

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on hey got interesting news an item I

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think we've had enough of Aaron Kaplan

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for a while and by the way ladies and

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gentlemen

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if you do want to see the book I don't

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know if he's gobsmacked after I

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persuaded him to do this but I wrote him

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and said you know what you want to get

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the message out if you don't care about

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the money you're making from the book

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and I assume he can't have sold too many

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to be frank why don't you let us post a

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PDF electronic version of the book in

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our forums and he agreed much to his

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credit that was a very magnanimous of

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him I must say as soon as we were done

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taping the show much to our surprise we

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got a very nice email from him saying

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boy you guys are really tough but thanks

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so much for like really making me

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explain myself and and I guess that's a

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sign of a good radio host is you tear

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your tear him limb from limb and then

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they come back and thank you well I know

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in the past people have wanted to do

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things to us but thanking was not one of

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them hey I got a thank you from our my

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arch skeptic buddy on the forums Lance

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moody he said great show really enjoyed

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a good job I was like well I guess I

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guess waking up in a bad mood not

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having any water what else was going on

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that day I I remember telling saying to

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you this is a perfect show for me today

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because I'm I'm pretty thin skinned but

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really feeling ornery but you kept it in

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check you were a gentleman hydride

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interesting news item the first

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spaceport the first commercial spaceship

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terminal was inaugurated this week in

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the uninhabited desert town of Optim in

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New Mexico are you familiar with that

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place actually been there I've been in

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the that region but I've never actually

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been there now you're speaking of the

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Virgin spaceport Branson yes so this is

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from British billionaire Richard Branson

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he's owner of a pay for spaceflight

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company called Virgin Galactic okay and

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the way it's works is supposedly in

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twelve months or so they'll be ready for

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space flights you want to get on there

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like White Knight 2 and spaceship 2 sub

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orbital flights it's just two hundred

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thousand dollars does anyone want to

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volunteer to send Chris up there I'm not

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going but Chris you know likes to

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investigate and explore would anyone

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send Chris two hundred thousand dollars

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I think not but it's an interesting

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request seriously someone sent you a

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check for $200,000 and said Chris it's

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not for paying bills or fixing the

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plumbing or whatever we're buying a new

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fancy car it is for one purpose and one

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purpose alone that's to send you into

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outer space would you do it without a

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moment's hesitation well what we can do

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is maybe hook you up with Skype on the

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trip and we could do a live back and

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forth so there you go are you ready for

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that that would be so cool you really

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want to go you have to go through

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training though to go into outer space

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you know that right yeah I forgot about

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that yeah you have to be physically

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trained you know you have to make sure

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that there are no serious physical

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problems it's not like you know in Star

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Trek they just beam you up you know they

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simply dissect all your atoms and stuff

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and they re select it and reassemble

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them on the spaceship this you know you

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got to go up there physically so

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before you do that you have to be in

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pretty good physical condition and I

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think I keep myself in reasonable

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physical condition but I'm not going you

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know I mean if it's speeding up I'll go

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for it you know but not this you know

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well I don't know maybe maybe I could

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pass the physical

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I don't know I'm I spend too much time

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in front of these darn compete computer

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monitors I gotta get out and run right

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well when you go out there and you do

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your field investigation don't you get a

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lot of exercise for that again I regret

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it for the next couple days after that

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too but you have to do it regularly you

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can't be the weekend warrior I know we

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ought to have somebody who helps develop

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an exercise program for people who are

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stuck in front of their computers

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computer and you maybe make a few

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movements and suddenly you know you're

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you're feeling the burn well I I have

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some news I had a very interesting trip

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up to the vaulted skinwalker ranch with

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yeah that was quite quite interesting

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I'm not allowed to give any details

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about what happened up there but boy

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I'll tell ya they got more than they

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bargained for which i think is is gonna

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make for some pretty dramatic television

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I must say the trip went really well

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and upon arriving back here in Arizona I

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got a call from our good friend and

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friend of the show Ron Regehr who in the

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space of the two days that I was up

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there he got some very interesting

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reports of what was described to him and

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in another report to his daughter who

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mans the information booth there in Moab

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Utah about campers in a remote area of

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Canyonlands called the maze seen a

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dinosaur a small three-foot bipedal

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dinosaur that ran by and there arrived

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there to see the latest episode

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terranova the new

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viescha well go figure

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I you know normally you would kind of

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take a single report like that with a

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grain of salt but to in the space of two

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days and then doing a little bit of

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research much to my surprise this is not

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these are not isolated events all the

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way back into the late 90s people in the

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northern Lake Powell area up into

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Canyonlands so there's been a number of

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sightings of what are described as like

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a miniature campus or us or kind of like

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a an Allosaurus but a miniature version

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of it you know there's a more dinosaur

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lore Jurassic Park in our own backyard

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I think I'm gobsmacked to hear about

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baby dinosaurs I think these dangerous

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dinosaurs or are they plant eaters or

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what from the description it sounds like

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these are small carnivores and there's

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seen pretty much exclusively near water

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sources so that would you know if there

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was a cryptic creature like that lurking

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about the remote regions of southern

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Utah boy I'll tell you that's another

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planet if if any of our listeners have

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ever been out in the southern Utah area

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it's it's about as desolate and remote

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as any place in North America and that

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would be a place where something like

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that could possibly survive but I would

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hesitate to mention these these alleged

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sightings to a paleontologist I'd be

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laughed out of the museum or we're out

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of the fossil restoration lab and this

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is quite interesting in fact I'm

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actually thinking of using this as an

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excuse to go to the area here in the

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next couple of weeks and mount a little

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expedition to see if we can possibly

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film something like this boy wouldn't

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that be a coup I'll tell you what Steven

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Spielberg did he's big on dinosaurs

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you're not buying this one are you gene

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you know what I don't know I'm not going

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to say anything that's not fair you know

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there's also report now about Bigfoot in

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Siberia supposed to get confirmed what's

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that about what have you heard

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well there was an expedition mounted and

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they had a recently they had I think a

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couple of weeks ago a conference of

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Russian cryptozoologists and other

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invitees and evidently there's some

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pretty compelling evidence that at least

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one form of the Yeti or Wildman I think

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they call it there in Siberia is is a

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real flesh-and-blood creature and

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interesting photograph of tracks and the

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snow was posted and I haven't dug too

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deeply into the story but you know like

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all of these expeditions you know they

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need to come back and show us something

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in order to justify the expense and and

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the effort and energy it takes to mount

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these expeditions to remote areas but I

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think it's just moving the ball forward

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down the field here in terms of

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establishing once and for all the

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reality of these creatures of course we

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had members of the Pennsylvania a

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Bigfoot Society on a few shows back and

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and they're they're very convinced that

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there's a creature running around

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southwestern Pennsylvania and of course

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we have the Mogi eye monster here and

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our our neck of the woods here gene and

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doesn't matter where you go there's

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there's some sort of reports or a

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tradition of these large hairy you know

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hominid types lurking about peeking in

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Windows people having sex or bugging

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young couples and lovers lanes as in the

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DuPont monster in Illinois why their

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obsession with human sexual practices

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you'd think since they're humanoid in a

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sense themselves that they do it the

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same way well maybe they're taking notes

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maybe they're maybe it's like some kind

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of weird sex education course for them

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maybe they're fascinated with various

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nevermind I'm not gonna go there no

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we're not going to go into the sexual

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practices of cryptids but we're gonna

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have more shows on that you know it's

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not going to be just UFOs in the next

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few weeks we've got some interesting

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things in the wind I heard from a very

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prominent cryptozoologists just the

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other day he wants to get back on the

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show and which

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work that out so it's gonna happen but

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be great to see him again yeah but

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you've got a bunch of things happening

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in your life you shouldn't be working on

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so many projects you become rich and

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famous I don't know about that that's

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not why I do what I do Jean obviously

416
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why is you be a huge failure and I'd be

417
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a bigger failure you know I gave up

418
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being rich and famous a long time ago

419
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you know I guess we could say that the

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power cast has delivered a certain

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amount of Fame in a manner of speaking

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but riches no people seem to think that

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people who get involved who published

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books go on the radio suddenly they're

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running around with millions of dollars

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that doesn't happen you know introduce

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me I'll take their workshop right yeah

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where some people you know they go into

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a garage they come up with some kind of

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invention and some venture capitalist

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comes over and says okay here's a couple

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of million dollars you never know what's

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gonna happen with that but you know

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today we're going to go back into an

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area of the UFO field we don't cover a

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lot which is what's happening over in

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South America and it seems in South

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America some of the most incredible UFO

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cases occur like in Brazil for example

440
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in Brazil they have actually released

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cases the government and Brazil is a

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very highly advanced country you know

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and they at least they're forthcoming

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about we don't see that kind of release

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so much in this country at all so the

446
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guests we've got is aj gevaerd and i

447
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always pronounce his name wrong because

448
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my portuguese is lousy but aj is a

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really nice guy and you know we're gonna

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ask him though before we start he's

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gonna join us in the next segment is he

452
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was supposed to meet up with actress

453
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Shirley MacLaine is big into psychic and

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UFO stuff and that never took place

455
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yeah well I'm not I'm not surprised

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Shirley's kind of squirrely ever

457
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encounter her in your travels

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not personally but I she owned a hundred

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and eighty acres in the Baca Grande you

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know portion of the crest owned area

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where I live for 13 years and she would

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kind of sneak in sneak out and

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I think the last straw for her and crest

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stone was she was hiking with the

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publisher of the crest own eagle our

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little newspaper there and her husband

467
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as they're walking up the trail michael

468
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happened to see the conditions building

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for a perfect rainbow and so he he

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stopped to start sniffing the airs or

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hiking up a mountain trail and and truly

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kind of stops and kind of sniffing

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around and he goes can't you smell it

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she goes what he goes a rainbow and

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right as he said that this beautiful

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rainbow bursts out in front of him and

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she was gobsmacked

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and about five or ten minutes later I

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guess she had lagged behind just in

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amazement and she caught up with Michael

481
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and Kissin and they were both cracking

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up and she realized that she'd been had

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and boy she was not happy and I think

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that was the last time she was in

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Creston but she owns the property she

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sold it a few years ago okay hopefully

487
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before the real estate bubble burst yeah

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she's down in Abiquiu now I think is her

489
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kind of New Mexico you know southern

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Colorado New Mexico area a haunt do you

491
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think people like that help the UFO

492
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field or basically work against it

493
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because you look at this oh it's just a

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whacky actress what does she know well

495
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maybe as dennis kucinich right that

496
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killed his presidential campaign because

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that's that's his godmother or something

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and he was talking about UFOs during a

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presidential debate this was 2008 and

500
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that was it you know that was all obama

501
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and hillary well yeah that it does have

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a bit of a stigma attached to it when

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you get up into the realms of the rich

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and famous and big and powerful i think

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surely brought a lot of interesting

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attention to this subject but for many

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of the wrong reasons I think her kind of

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new-age out on a limb bent was a little

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bit naive and I think there was a

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serious lack of some critical thinking

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involved in some of the events that she

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described and and it's unfortunate that

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occasionally we do have high-profile

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people that get involved in the field

515
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in a peripheral way and they attract a

516
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bunch of people that are not up to speed

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that buy into you know the

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coast-to-coast paradigm believe

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everything question nothing essentially

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well great performer doesn't mean they

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can do anything else or have the

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capability of logical thought although

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some are brilliant but we'll have aj

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gevaerd will ask him about trailer

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mcclain and lots more important stuff

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this is the wrong tire co-author of the

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UFO encyclopedia other books you're

635
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listening to the parapet aj gevaerd

636
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:20,830
speaks to us from brazil he's a longtime

637
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:24,210
UFO researcher with loads of information

638
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to present with Jean and Chris and the

639
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power cast but first you were supposed

640
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to we're kind of ragging on this in the

641
00:27:38,009 --> 00:27:35,620
previous segment you were supposed to

642
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:38,019
meet up with Shirley MacLaine but that

643
00:27:45,889 --> 00:27:40,090
didn't quite take place what happened

644
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well actually we are scheduled to dock

645
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:49,929
last week and the last time she have to

646
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go back to United States it's funny

647
00:28:01,620 --> 00:27:56,909
because brit elders one of her

648
00:28:05,549 --> 00:28:01,630
associates called me or wrote me seven

649
00:28:07,889 --> 00:28:05,559
two months ago before that asking me to

650
00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:07,899
come to some boat to meet her she was

651
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:10,899
about to be here to do a conference of

652
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longevity and i well i was thrilled with

653
00:28:19,169 --> 00:28:16,630
the opportunity to meet Shirley I'm a

654
00:28:23,539 --> 00:28:19,179
great fan and I know she has a great

655
00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:23,549
point on UFOs she's a big defender of

656
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:27,220
disclosure cause and a few others and I

657
00:28:32,909 --> 00:28:29,289
prepare myself to go and when they

658
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finally arrived in Brazil and it was

659
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:35,649
like in two or three days I was supposed

660
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to meet them in some power which I

661
00:28:43,470 --> 00:28:41,019
prepared to do it you bought my ticket

662
00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:43,480
and at the last minute I was going to

663
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the airport we're going to have a shot

664
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at that day's afternoon and I got this

665
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email from bread saying that she had an

666
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appointment United States and had to go

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back immediately

668
00:29:01,620 --> 00:28:59,169
she actually they relieved in just that

669
00:29:06,659 --> 00:29:01,630
same afternoon that we're supposed to

670
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:06,669
meet in some power so I guess that the

671
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:09,090
thing that Sheila had United States was

672
00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:12,340
Georgian I don't know but anyway she

673
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promised to see me next November I will

674
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be in away Aria from November

675
00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:23,430
nine to the 17th and I'm gonna meet her

676
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:26,550
as well as I'm gonna meet another few

677
00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:29,760
others UFO researchers like Roger Leir

678
00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:32,900
of course and we're gonna make some

679
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:38,790
interviews and talk to people and I want

680
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:41,550
to have this interview from Charlie when

681
00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:44,370
I'm their age a first of all welcome

682
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:46,380
back to the show it's great to great to

683
00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:48,600
have you back on was there any

684
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,540
indication when the original meeting was

685
00:29:54,890 --> 00:29:53,220
set up what she was interested in

686
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:54,900
talking to you about you have a sense of

687
00:30:00,590 --> 00:29:57,690
why she contacted you and what was on

688
00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:00,600
the agenda for her sure she's been to

689
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:02,400
pursue a couple times and she's been to

690
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South America many times because she's a

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she's a great father of the continent

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and she had great experiences in Peru in

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the Amazonian Peru and she's very

694
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:16,100
interested in UFOs with all her

695
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:20,100
paranormal stuff his sensitive stuff and

696
00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:22,770
and she was interested in knowing more

697
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:26,190
of what was going on in the Brazilian

698
00:30:34,670 --> 00:30:29,130
UFO scenario I was prepared to give her

699
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:34,680
a full briefing of of UFOs in the Amazon

700
00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:39,390
which is my my main area of dedication

701
00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:43,320
of investigation and now about a few of

702
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:45,080
the cases that we have in my country

703
00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:47,250
well good luck when that meeting finally

704
00:30:52,670 --> 00:30:49,140
does take place I've been a big fan of

705
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:52,680
hers as her actress movie work since I

706
00:30:57,490 --> 00:30:55,980
was a kid and as I explained on the

707
00:31:00,620 --> 00:30:57,500
previous segment before we had you on

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00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:00,630
she had 180 acres of property where I

709
00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:02,190
lived in Colorado

710
00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:04,380
she never developed it but I was hoping

711
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:06,420
to get a chance at some point to to meet

712
00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:08,010
with her as well so good luck with that

713
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:12,060
thank you I think AJ be important to

714
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:14,880
bring us up to date here because the

715
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:17,190
last time we had you on the show and

716
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:19,770
that goes back believe it or not two

717
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:23,670
years ago October 25th 2009 and this

718
00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:26,130
show will be broadcast on the 23rd of

719
00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:28,680
October this year so it's just about two

720
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:31,230
years ago and we were talking then about

721
00:31:35,899 --> 00:31:32,820
the disclosure

722
00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:35,909
of more UFO documents in Brazil but more

723
00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:37,620
activity has happened since then right

724
00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:41,100
AJ yes a lot of them dividends has

725
00:31:50,299 --> 00:31:46,380
happened since - when you last spoke you

726
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:50,309
know to virtual nine yes we had a what

727
00:31:56,899 --> 00:31:54,090
the government says is a full disclosure

728
00:31:58,940 --> 00:31:56,909
we the youthful researchers of course we

729
00:32:03,560 --> 00:31:58,950
don't believe that disclosure was

730
00:32:07,249 --> 00:32:03,570
complete but the government says that it

731
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:07,259
has accomplished our request and have

732
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,240
released all the UFO files they had and

733
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:15,120
he'd been something between five and six

734
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:19,320
thousand pages of UFO documents when we

735
00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:22,559
last spoke two years ago I believe we

736
00:32:29,389 --> 00:32:25,350
had less than half of that and since

737
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:29,399
then we had a lot of cases being

738
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:32,610
released now as I spoke at that time

739
00:32:38,060 --> 00:32:35,250
because the process was already going on

740
00:32:40,999 --> 00:32:38,070
in that format the government was

741
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:41,009
releasing its papers as its UFO

742
00:32:48,529 --> 00:32:43,519
documents with gourds and everything all

743
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:48,539
official by decades so we have been in

744
00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:53,039
207 the decades of the 40s the 50s and

745
00:32:58,430 --> 00:32:55,740
the 60s then we have 70s

746
00:33:04,700 --> 00:32:58,440
denty eighties a Bible that the eighties

747
00:33:07,129 --> 00:33:04,710
came out and in 209 and in 210 just last

748
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:07,139
year little the reward in one year ago

749
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:12,720
in August last year we had yes for four

750
00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:16,070
out of the decade of ninety plus

751
00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:20,870
something extraordinary happened on

752
00:33:28,369 --> 00:33:25,860
August 10th last year when the commander

753
00:33:31,450 --> 00:33:28,379
of the Brazilian Air Force which is a

754
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:31,460
brigadier called Junichi Saito a

755
00:33:38,619 --> 00:33:34,409
Japanese guy living in Brazil born in

756
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:38,629
Brazil of course and he just released a

757
00:33:45,670 --> 00:33:43,279
document with him which is a resolution

758
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:45,680
determining that

759
00:33:54,370 --> 00:33:50,090
from that time on that moment on since

760
00:33:59,410 --> 00:33:54,380
almost end all information regarding

761
00:34:02,740 --> 00:33:59,420
UFOs in Brazil especially reports of UFO

762
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:02,750
sightings made by pilots by air traffic

763
00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:06,110
controllers at the Asian personnel that

764
00:34:14,169 --> 00:34:09,260
sort of people should immediately be

765
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:14,179
sent to the National Archives for people

766
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:17,510
to see people to scribbling and this was

767
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:21,290
published in the official Proceedings of

768
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:23,330
the Brazilian government so it is

769
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:27,590
completely official since November of

770
00:34:36,669 --> 00:34:32,090
excuse me almost 10 last year it has

771
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,679
been considered officially with

772
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:38,320
[Music]

773
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:43,550
regulation that all UFO reports coming

774
00:34:51,879 --> 00:34:48,320
from anybody going to the Brazilian Air

775
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:51,889
Force is to be sent to the National

776
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:56,000
Archives and we we had some problems

777
00:35:03,460 --> 00:34:58,850
about that because well see of course we

778
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:03,470
we welcome that that resolution but

779
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,130
there was some some points of it it

780
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:10,400
wasn't very clear anyway we can discuss

781
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:13,610
about it doing this brother okay I think

782
00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:15,530
the one thing I'd like to ask you first

783
00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:18,140
is I know when we get Freedom of

784
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:22,540
Information requests here in the USA

785
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,400
even if you get the documents they're

786
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:27,680
going to have large portions of them

787
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:30,680
redacted blackened down you can't see

788
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:32,930
them and sometimes you get documents

789
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:35,810
loads of documents and maybe one or two

790
00:35:39,580 --> 00:35:36,650
phrases

791
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:39,590
per document is visible so in this

792
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:41,750
connection do you get most of what's in

793
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:43,330
those documents when they release them

794
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:46,220
you can see them all you can read them

795
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:48,890
all there's nothing black no paint at

796
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:52,370
all over there the thing is that we

797
00:35:58,350 --> 00:35:54,590
don't believe that the government is

798
00:36:01,810 --> 00:35:58,360
releasing all the papers that it has

799
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:01,820
come on five to six thousand pages

800
00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:04,490
covering six decades of year for

801
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:05,960
investigation or fishery or

802
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:08,650
investigation in Brazil it's just

803
00:36:14,590 --> 00:36:11,390
unreasonable so but it's a question of

804
00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:14,600
like taking them on faith I'm sorry it's

805
00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:16,460
like taking them on faith you know do

806
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:18,140
you really believe that they are giving

807
00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:20,420
you all of the information they have or

808
00:36:24,610 --> 00:36:23,390
are they holding back he elements now

809
00:36:29,290 --> 00:36:24,620
we're gonna get into a lot more of that

810
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:29,300
with aj gevaerd he is from brazil noted

811
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:31,850
UFO researcher we're discussing the

812
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:35,150
ongoing disclosure of cases i'm gonna

813
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:38,570
see what's there and what's missing very

814
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:40,070
important and a little bit later in the

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hear anywhere else hear that George

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Noory we're back with aj gevaerd he

925
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is a Brazilian UFO researcher you're

926
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still the editor of this Brazilian UFO

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magazine yes magazine is the longest

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leaving UFO magazine in the world now

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you know there ever be an

930
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english-language version no we don't

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have an English version which I'm sorry

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just important user I know well a lot of

933
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our listeners would love to be able to

934
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get a hold of it yeah yeah and I've got

935
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a question here in in regards to the

936
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disclosure process now we all know about

937
00:42:01,630 --> 00:41:58,430
the infamous Caloris case down in in

938
00:42:04,299 --> 00:42:01,640
Brazil in the late 70s early 80s now you

939
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,309
know were indications from witnesses

940
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:06,079
that the Brazilian Air Force got

941
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incredible footage of a giant mothership

942
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:11,329
that was seen around the mouth of the

943
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Amazon in all these documents pardon me

944
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:15,799
yes absolutely

945
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:18,049
yes well have they released any gun

946
00:42:22,210 --> 00:42:19,910
camera footage as a Brazilian Air Force

947
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:22,220
released any of their their their visual

948
00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:25,690
evidence photographs gun camera footage

949
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:28,940
films taken by investigators let's say

950
00:42:34,839 --> 00:42:31,280
of the colores case have you seen any of

951
00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:34,849
the the real smoking gun type evidence

952
00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:40,430
well we wanted to see you know we know

953
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for a fact because we've been dealing

954
00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:45,680
with this sustained operation so saying

955
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the Amazon for quite twenty years or so

956
00:42:53,980 --> 00:42:51,530
we know for a fact that this operation

957
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which was one of the largest military

958
00:43:01,630 --> 00:42:57,740
operation norm in the entire world to

959
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deal officially with a UFO phenomena

960
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which had the objective of interacting

961
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with the intelligences beyond the

962
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phenomena that was going on in the

963
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:14,079
Amazon we know that 2,000 pages of

964
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:18,530
documents were produced in four months

965
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:20,780
of investigations from September to

966
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December 1977 and we know that all over

967
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500 pictures black and white were taken

968
00:43:37,330 --> 00:43:32,750
by the military that sometimes were too

969
00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:37,340
dozen sometimes 3,000 military all under

970
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:40,340
the command of Colonel William G Linda

971
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that had that and was only a captain he

972
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retired as a counter and we know also

973
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:50,060
because I interviewed the man that at

974
00:44:00,460 --> 00:43:56,170
least 16 now let me repeat 16 hours of

975
00:44:04,330 --> 00:44:00,470
footage and four months of 8 and 16

976
00:44:06,580 --> 00:44:04,340
millimeters were shot in the Amazon of

977
00:44:10,660 --> 00:44:06,590
the you 'those departure flight and

978
00:44:13,690 --> 00:44:10,670
including as I said press a big but not

979
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:13,700
only one several big motherships in the

980
00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:16,370
Amazon we have witnesses who saw this

981
00:44:22,270 --> 00:44:19,790
films but as far as this disclosure in

982
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:22,280
Brazil concerned of all this

983
00:44:25,210 --> 00:44:24,530
documentation from the two thousand

984
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,220
pages

985
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:27,680
Brazil government has only released some

986
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:31,760
four to five hundred pages and all out

987
00:44:37,630 --> 00:44:34,850
of the five hundred features we have

988
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:37,640
only seen about two hundred so three

989
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,880
hundred meters are missing fifteen

990
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:43,280
hundred pages as and are missing and

991
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,790
about the sixteen hours of films and I I

992
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:49,280
repeat that because that's that's a hell

993
00:44:56,770 --> 00:44:53,090
of a great amount of footage

994
00:45:01,120 --> 00:44:56,780
sixteen hours it's a real lot of fridge

995
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:01,130
and not not even a single minute of this

996
00:45:07,090 --> 00:45:03,830
material has been released by the gun

997
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:07,100
now when you check out this material do

998
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:10,460
you ask the government hey we've got all

999
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:16,910
this stuff why don't you have it the

1000
00:45:22,090 --> 00:45:19,850
government let's not say about the gun

1001
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:22,100
it's about the military because the

1002
00:45:26,350 --> 00:45:24,530
common in Brazil actually isn't carried

1003
00:45:29,170 --> 00:45:26,360
much about your thoughts Stafford

1004
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:29,180
closure of whatever it is the military

1005
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:32,210
who decided to to do it and these are

1006
00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:34,970
forces are very very distinct from each

1007
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:39,020
other in my country these days and the

1008
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:42,410
Brazilian Air Force is the is the

1009
00:45:46,730 --> 00:45:44,040
military

1010
00:45:51,050 --> 00:45:46,740
is cooperating with the UFO researchers

1011
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:51,060
and not totally top-seeded there is some

1012
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:55,040
goodwill in their proceedings and

1013
00:46:02,000 --> 00:45:57,480
releasing papers and releasing material

1014
00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:02,010
and getting us access to some data but

1015
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:04,620
they are definitely not showing us

1016
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:07,020
everything they have what do you think

1017
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:08,940
AJ they maybe just trying to throw you a

1018
00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:11,640
few bones to shut you guys up so you

1019
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,440
don't keep asking tactics this is very

1020
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:19,680
military now see in this five to six

1021
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:22,170
thousand pages of documents there's a

1022
00:46:30,110 --> 00:46:25,260
lot of junk trash that you this is

1023
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:30,120
useless like clippings letters that were

1024
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:33,410
exchanged between Air Force bases

1025
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:37,410
letters from people requesting their for

1026
00:46:42,890 --> 00:46:40,650
some information or people were given

1027
00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:42,900
their false information isn't it this

1028
00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:46,230
lets not actually documentation about

1029
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:48,600
your force this is not that it's not

1030
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:51,660
those those papers that are trash

1031
00:46:55,820 --> 00:46:54,210
they're not reports they are not cases

1032
00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:55,830
they are not proceedings they're nothing

1033
00:47:01,310 --> 00:46:58,920
I would say that less than 10% of the

1034
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:01,320
entire amount of pages that we're

1035
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:04,170
disclosed are actually very good stuff

1036
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,330
smoke and mirrors it sounds like they

1037
00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:07,920
kind of just fill you with a bunch of

1038
00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:10,680
stuff hoping the arc I noticed there for

1039
00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:13,950
very few cases yes but is he in the

1040
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:16,920
decade of AD when they release the

1041
00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:21,440
papers which was over 1200 1200 pages

1042
00:47:30,350 --> 00:47:24,950
from the A's which they did in 208

1043
00:47:35,570 --> 00:47:30,360
between all this trash we found a great

1044
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:35,580
paper a great document a document which

1045
00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:39,510
is the report of a massive case that

1046
00:47:52,210 --> 00:47:44,660
happen in Brazil in may nineteen 196 in

1047
00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:52,220
involving 21 farik UFOs all of them

1048
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:54,060
heaven

1049
00:48:00,830 --> 00:47:58,050
average of 100 meters in diameter which

1050
00:48:03,350 --> 00:48:00,840
is 300 feet so we're talking about big

1051
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:03,360
huge stuff this is something they

1052
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:06,800
disclosed these are certainly disclosed

1053
00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:11,670
all those papers that iron useless I'm

1054
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:15,300
gobsmacked pages it's like they are

1055
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:17,970
trying to test us to see if we are smart

1056
00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:22,200
enough to go to dig into that paper if

1057
00:48:29,540 --> 00:48:27,240
we are persistent and clever to put away

1058
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:29,550
the trash from the good stuff you know

1059
00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:32,130
it's like they're testing us I wrote a

1060
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:36,150
paper about it just recently and say yes

1061
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:39,210
we are smart enough to see that among

1062
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:40,740
all this trash there is good information

1063
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,130
in the government the military they want

1064
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:47,040
to know what are we gonna do with this

1065
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:49,790
information how are we gonna treat it

1066
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:54,210
are we very responsible guys you're for

1067
00:49:00,680 --> 00:48:58,200
or are we all lunatics earful nuts that

1068
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:00,690
will start talking to everybody that

1069
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:03,630
UFOs have been detected by Raiders and

1070
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:06,960
perm pursued by several jets in Brazil

1071
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:08,790
desert that are are we gonna take this

1072
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:12,180
information for seriously and it's good

1073
00:49:17,330 --> 00:49:15,450
knives it analyze it and of course let

1074
00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:17,340
people know what happened show the

1075
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:20,070
documentation to the problem analyze it

1076
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:23,280
and tell the people how important how

1077
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:26,010
significative this is and this is what

1078
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:30,900
we did so I believe that we were being

1079
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:35,010
observed by the military and they are

1080
00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:40,020
giving us what we want according to what

1081
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:43,500
we do with what they give previously am

1082
00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:46,170
i clear about it do you understand what

1083
00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:48,390
I mean it sounds to me that they're

1084
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:50,790
delaying a trap for you that if you fall

1085
00:49:56,930 --> 00:49:52,290
into the traps you're just getting no

1086
00:49:59,960 --> 00:49:56,940
more information like that yes and

1087
00:50:02,990 --> 00:49:59,970
they're giving us so far information

1088
00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:03,000
that we wanna know when they started

1089
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:04,820
disclosing this material

1090
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:07,760
doing by decades so they the release the

1091
00:50:12,550 --> 00:50:09,590
fifth is the six to the seventh the

1092
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:12,560
eighth is the 90s last year and last

1093
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:15,890
year just when they release the nineties

1094
00:50:22,750 --> 00:50:19,520
the papers of the nineties they are so

1095
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:22,760
issued that resolution was a big thing

1096
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:25,610
in Brazil in the UFO community of course

1097
00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:28,640
because the general press didn't general

1098
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:30,320
media didn't pay much attention to it

1099
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:34,610
unfortunately but when it happened that

1100
00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:36,290
the commander of the Brazilian force

1101
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:40,120
promised them in time he will disclose

1102
00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:45,490
the documents for the years from 200 to

1103
00:50:54,610 --> 00:50:50,030
209 and this happened just or actually

1104
00:50:59,950 --> 00:50:54,620
from the entire last decade from the

1105
00:51:02,310 --> 00:50:59,960
year 2002 to 2010 and just like two or

1106
00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:02,320
three months ago we have that material

1107
00:51:15,550 --> 00:51:08,630
released so in in a sense if we take the

1108
00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:15,560
government word as as as real it it

1109
00:51:21,010 --> 00:51:18,500
fulfilled the promise of releasing all

1110
00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:21,020
the papers from all these decades

1111
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:23,840
because now we have documents covering

1112
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,410
from the fifties to 12:10 I'll tell you

1113
00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:28,880
what we're getting to more of what was

1114
00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:30,560
disclosed and more in some of the key

1115
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:33,980
cases with aj gevaerd with Jean and

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1145
00:53:15,460 --> 00:53:12,110
here's Jane Steinberg the editor the

1146
00:53:19,540 --> 00:53:15,470
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1147
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:19,550
says is the longest lasting UFO magazine

1148
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on the planet maybe they have a UFO

1149
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:23,960
magazine and other planets we don't know

1150
00:53:28,570 --> 00:53:26,960
about them now it's the position they

1151
00:53:31,060 --> 00:53:28,580
have the government that they're giving

1152
00:53:34,030 --> 00:53:31,070
you everything they have and once they

1153
00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:34,040
release all this stuff that's it for

1154
00:53:39,580 --> 00:53:37,190
them yes that's it this is what they

1155
00:53:42,850 --> 00:53:39,590
want us to believe that they don't have

1156
00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:42,860
any anything else to give us it's it is

1157
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:46,760
it you want it we gave you and this is

1158
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:49,370
it but of course we're not taking that

1159
00:53:57,790 --> 00:53:53,930
for that as a reasonable answer see I

1160
00:54:00,160 --> 00:53:57,800
just just told you guys that we just

1161
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:00,170
recently like two or three months ago we

1162
00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:03,110
have the disclosure of the papers from

1163
00:54:09,970 --> 00:54:07,430
the years 2002 to ten right you know how

1164
00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:09,980
many documents were there in that

1165
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:15,260
package seven seven seven okay so there

1166
00:54:21,490 --> 00:54:17,390
were seven UFO sightings in all those

1167
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:21,500
years in ten years seven and in the

1168
00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:24,530
decade before the previous decade they

1169
00:54:30,850 --> 00:54:26,840
gave us something like a hundred pages

1170
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:30,860
of documents covering some like six or

1171
00:54:38,770 --> 00:54:36,530
six or seven 60 or 70 cases it's it is

1172
00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:38,780
much more than than last decade but even

1173
00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:41,660
even in the in the previous decade it's

1174
00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:46,520
not the total figure now let's let's

1175
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:48,920
concentrate in open-ended in the last

1176
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:52,400
decade from the year 2002 or ten we have

1177
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:54,110
cases of people

1178
00:54:59,410 --> 00:54:56,510
Raburn normal people reporting UFOs to

1179
00:55:04,930 --> 00:54:59,420
the military as well as we have three to

1180
00:55:08,109 --> 00:55:04,940
four cases of pilots commanders of big

1181
00:55:12,609 --> 00:55:08,119
jazz reporting UFO sightings to the

1182
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:12,619
in all together they wear seven reports

1183
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:16,430
seven and a total of what 20 25 pages

1184
00:55:21,549 --> 00:55:19,609
covering an entire decade well I don't

1185
00:55:23,259 --> 00:55:21,559
buy that excuse me but I don't myself

1186
00:55:25,630 --> 00:55:23,269
that I don't think that is reasonable to

1187
00:55:28,829 --> 00:55:25,640
believe and the military has tonight

1188
00:55:32,529 --> 00:55:28,839
agree with us that it is just just

1189
00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:32,539
something not reasonable nope I see a

1190
00:55:37,299 --> 00:55:34,670
fast question that it occurs to me as

1191
00:55:39,429 --> 00:55:37,309
you mentioned this is there a freedom of

1192
00:55:42,910 --> 00:55:39,439
information kind of program in Brazil

1193
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:42,920
where you can say give me X X document

1194
00:55:48,609 --> 00:55:44,920
and they would supposedly look it up

1195
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:48,619
something similar to what is going on

1196
00:55:54,429 --> 00:55:51,920
United States but the legislation in

1197
00:55:57,549 --> 00:55:54,439
Brazil is a little difference sometimes

1198
00:56:01,779 --> 00:55:57,559
you you may ask and you may apply the

1199
00:56:04,989 --> 00:56:01,789
law you are entitled to to be covered by

1200
00:56:07,569 --> 00:56:04,999
the law and the government or one of its

1201
00:56:10,689 --> 00:56:07,579
institutions it's mandatory that they

1202
00:56:13,630 --> 00:56:10,699
give you what you would West but you

1203
00:56:16,569 --> 00:56:13,640
know in Brazil they can simply don't

1204
00:56:17,469 --> 00:56:16,579
listen to you pretended they have never

1205
00:56:20,829 --> 00:56:17,479
heard from you

1206
00:56:23,169 --> 00:56:20,839
never heard of your request and just

1207
00:56:25,269 --> 00:56:23,179
don't speak about it they can also I

1208
00:56:27,339 --> 00:56:25,279
assume just say we don't have it it

1209
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:27,349
doesn't exist there's no record even

1210
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:29,569
though you know it was reported to them

1211
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:31,609
but if I'm a person who was actually

1212
00:56:35,859 --> 00:56:33,049
seeing a UFO in Brazil

1213
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:35,869
anywhere where do I go to report it well

1214
00:56:41,499 --> 00:56:38,569
in the same resolution published by the

1215
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:41,509
Brazilian Air Force commander it is said

1216
00:56:49,809 --> 00:56:46,400
that it welcomes reports from everybody

1217
00:56:53,529 --> 00:56:49,819
it is something that that has been said

1218
00:56:57,609 --> 00:56:53,539
by other other top ranking military then

1219
00:57:01,569 --> 00:56:57,619
they don't concentrate in reports they

1220
00:57:05,169 --> 00:57:01,579
get from military personnel or aviation

1221
00:57:09,189 --> 00:57:05,179
personnel pilots air traffic controllers

1222
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:09,199
no in fact what the brigadiers of z-cars

1223
00:57:14,259 --> 00:57:12,410
pereira told me when i interviewed him

1224
00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:14,269
and this is a very important man in the

1225
00:57:20,410 --> 00:57:17,630
military in brazil and said the

1226
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:20,420
brazilian effort is getting or has

1227
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:23,839
receiving reports of UFO sightings from

1228
00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:27,670
all sorts of people so you me

1229
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:32,059
environment a teacher a doctor a driver

1230
00:57:41,529 --> 00:57:36,079
whatever anybody who has a sighting of a

1231
00:57:44,650 --> 00:57:41,539
UFO can call two to one of the Brazilian

1232
00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:44,660
Air Force bases and report it and if

1233
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:48,260
they do this report becomes official and

1234
00:57:54,730 --> 00:57:52,910
it if it happens now since last August

1235
00:57:57,940 --> 00:57:54,740
this report is supposed to be sent to

1236
00:58:01,809 --> 00:57:57,950
the National Archives now it's something

1237
00:58:05,170 --> 00:58:01,819
that you can or you you can or cannot do

1238
00:58:08,910 --> 00:58:05,180
you you may decide to report or you may

1239
00:58:12,269 --> 00:58:08,920
just let it go but if you are a pilot

1240
00:58:16,509 --> 00:58:12,279
flying in Brazil the Brazilian pilot

1241
00:58:19,509 --> 00:58:16,519
either private or commercial or of

1242
00:58:23,019 --> 00:58:19,519
course military and you have a sighting

1243
00:58:25,420 --> 00:58:23,029
of the offeree then it's mandatory that

1244
00:58:28,269 --> 00:58:25,430
you report what you saw if you are

1245
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:28,279
during the flight you are if you are in

1246
00:58:33,370 --> 00:58:31,609
your hours in doing something in your

1247
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:33,380
backyard you're not flying

1248
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:35,690
that's all right you're not even being

1249
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:38,720
someone connected to the aviation you

1250
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:42,410
are not supposed it's not mandatory that

1251
00:58:47,259 --> 00:58:44,569
you report what you saw but if you are

1252
00:58:51,099 --> 00:58:47,269
in the cockpit of an airplane in Brazil

1253
00:58:54,190 --> 00:58:51,109
and even if you are a foreign pilot

1254
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:54,200
flying in Brazil you are supposed to

1255
00:58:59,650 --> 00:58:57,410
report any sightings that you have so

1256
00:59:03,730 --> 00:58:59,660
even if it's an American pilot going

1257
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:03,740
from you know New York to Brazil to one

1258
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,559
of your larger airports if they see a

1259
00:59:11,470 --> 00:59:08,960
UFO on your territory they have to

1260
00:59:15,579 --> 00:59:11,480
report to your authorities yes you have

1261
00:59:19,269 --> 00:59:15,589
to unless you just don't make any

1262
00:59:22,299 --> 00:59:19,279
contact at all with any of the the radar

1263
00:59:24,999 --> 00:59:22,309
tracking station to any and traffic

1264
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:25,009
controller because once she report hey

1265
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:28,250
I'm from American Airlines whenever over

1266
00:59:32,410 --> 00:59:31,190
Manaus in the Amazon going to some power

1267
00:59:37,299 --> 00:59:32,420
line that is this

1268
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:37,309
huge big object just right to my wing

1269
00:59:44,650 --> 00:59:41,440
why do I do but once you go on record

1270
00:59:48,370 --> 00:59:44,660
reporting that you saw something then

1271
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:48,380
you have what you learned you have to go

1272
00:59:54,460 --> 00:59:50,990
to a specific place in that Airport

1273
00:59:57,700 --> 00:59:54,470
which all airports here have a military

1274
01:00:00,880 --> 00:59:57,710
branch of some kind an office and room

1275
01:00:05,529 --> 01:00:00,890
and race you have to pick up a report

1276
01:00:07,329 --> 01:00:05,539
form and fill it and given today may be

1277
01:00:10,029 --> 01:00:07,339
like a good way to discourage the

1278
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:10,039
practice I know I was an American pilot

1279
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:12,890
going to Brazil I'd either opted to not

1280
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:15,049
take that route anymore or I would

1281
01:00:17,410 --> 01:00:16,880
simply say I didn't see anything forget

1282
01:00:19,329 --> 01:00:17,420
about it

1283
01:00:21,549 --> 01:00:19,339
right because that could jeopardize your

1284
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,559
position with your you know American

1285
01:00:27,309 --> 01:00:23,599
carrier I mean you're you might be

1286
01:00:30,339 --> 01:00:27,319
putting a job at risk if you if you you

1287
01:00:32,380 --> 01:00:30,349
know fulfill fulfill your obligation to

1288
01:00:34,269 --> 01:00:32,390
the Brazilian authorities to report an

1289
01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:34,279
incident then of course that would get

1290
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:37,220
back to United or continental whoever's

1291
01:00:44,019 --> 01:00:40,910
the whoever you're flying for is not

1292
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:44,029
supposed to be published only since last

1293
01:00:49,809 --> 01:00:47,930
last August not 10th and on this report

1294
01:00:52,329 --> 01:00:49,819
we're supposed to be published to may be

1295
01:00:55,059 --> 01:00:52,339
made public but we don't believe it

1296
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:55,069
because in you know all this time well

1297
01:01:02,410 --> 01:00:59,599
actually this this proceeding has been

1298
01:01:05,019 --> 01:01:02,420
going on for quite some time and most of

1299
01:01:08,049 --> 01:01:05,029
the cases that we know for sure we're

1300
01:01:11,230 --> 01:01:08,059
dead airliners were followed by UFOs in

1301
01:01:14,049 --> 01:01:11,240
Brazil bigger liners like our major

1302
01:01:18,009 --> 01:01:14,059
companies we we know because this pilots

1303
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:18,019
sometimes they didn't contact us to

1304
01:01:24,370 --> 01:01:20,000
report what they saw asking for

1305
01:01:25,630 --> 01:01:24,380
anonymity 30% right there just just to

1306
01:01:27,819 --> 01:01:25,640
let us know what is going on because

1307
01:01:31,539 --> 01:01:27,829
it's something that impresses them so

1308
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:31,549
they want us to know and we will expect

1309
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:34,640
that to see those reports coming up in

1310
01:01:38,650 --> 01:01:36,910
the documents this classified

1311
01:01:42,250 --> 01:01:38,660
Declassified by the Brazilian government

1312
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:42,260
and they never showed up so

1313
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:45,410
while I believe is that of course not

1314
01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:49,850
all scientists that are reported and

1315
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:53,750
very few are reported actually but from

1316
01:02:01,090 --> 01:01:56,720
this few sightings that were important

1317
01:02:03,550 --> 01:02:01,100
very few are being declassified all the

1318
01:02:04,750 --> 01:02:03,560
rest is being kept secret and will be

1319
01:02:07,870 --> 01:02:04,760
sold for quite some time

1320
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:07,880
why is that so because yeah well AG

1321
01:02:12,670 --> 01:02:09,710
that's that's my question why do you

1322
01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:12,680
think the Brazilian government is -

1323
01:02:18,670 --> 01:02:15,740
playing and playing this game because

1324
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:18,680
it's it's being played by almost all

1325
01:02:26,260 --> 01:02:22,400
governments who claimed to to be open

1326
01:02:29,740 --> 01:02:26,270
about the subject see UK in in England

1327
01:02:33,460 --> 01:02:29,750
we have now what 30,000 40,000 pages

1328
01:02:36,550 --> 01:02:33,470
released and France we have over done

1329
01:02:39,490 --> 01:02:36,560
then a hundred and twenty thousand pages

1330
01:02:41,290 --> 01:02:39,500
of official useful documents we'll have

1331
01:02:43,450 --> 01:02:41,300
to get into more of those documents what

1332
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:43,460
they mean compared what's being released

1333
01:02:51,090 --> 01:02:46,130
around the world AJ give aired joining

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is the market going to recover is the

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Washington spending machine going to

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continue and that means a lot of debt

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and maybe printing money to cover the

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debt they call it monetizing the debt

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but that's a fancy way of saying

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inflation and a lot of people are

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worried about that so you need the

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commodities fluctuate in price they can

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go up and down very volatile there's no

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guarantee but if you want the ultimate

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inflation hedge you need to talk to my

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a typical website it has much more than

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natural disasters just to name a few let

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me ask you what are you doing to be

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we'd like to hear from you if you have a

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we continue with aj gevaerd from his

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:30,760
palatial estate in brazil it's not

1424
01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:32,530
palatial is it we always say people have

1425
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:34,990
a palatial estate when they talk to us

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01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:40,900
from another country like a mansion like

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01:07:56,970 --> 01:07:52,180
a big mansion that you live in cuba in

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:07:56,980
south of brazil and right now is 5:35 in

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01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:01,210
the afternoon we're preparing for great

1430
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:04,350
evening today we have saving times

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01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:08,290
started just last Sunday in Brazil and

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:10,720
everything is going fine my cancer

1433
01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:12,490
disease let me ask you about the

1434
01:08:18,150 --> 01:08:16,030
quantity of UFO cases and you know you

1435
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:18,160
were mentioning that far more documents

1436
01:08:21,329 --> 01:08:19,810
are being released in France and Great

1437
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:21,339
Britain does that mean there are more

1438
01:08:25,470 --> 01:08:23,470
spaces there to reveal or they have been

1439
01:08:27,870 --> 01:08:25,480
more forthcoming I think they're more

1440
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:27,880
forthcoming but when I mentioned that

1441
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:31,150
there was about to say that even when

1442
01:08:37,950 --> 01:08:35,049
they give to the public that the massive

1443
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:37,960
amount of pages of documents I don't

1444
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:39,460
believe that they dare disclose and

1445
01:08:43,650 --> 01:08:41,650
everything no government and always

1446
01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:43,660
disclosing everything because the hard

1447
01:08:49,050 --> 01:08:46,120
core of the UFO phenomena what is the

1448
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:49,060
most serious stuff

1449
01:08:54,329 --> 01:08:51,850
has not been released so far it probably

1450
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:54,339
won't be yeah they won't be so easily

1451
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:56,290
no they won't be what what is being

1452
01:09:03,240 --> 01:08:58,690
disclosed here and there in other

1453
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:03,250
countries is only the tip of a very big

1454
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:05,710
we want every piece of that iceberg but

1455
01:09:10,380 --> 01:09:08,530
it's it's too huge and I don't think

1456
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:10,390
that any government will give up

1457
01:09:17,550 --> 01:09:13,570
everything any day unless they are

1458
01:09:20,790 --> 01:09:17,560
forced by some something so massive

1459
01:09:23,130 --> 01:09:20,800
something perhaps caused by the aliens

1460
01:09:26,670 --> 01:09:23,140
themselves liked it they decided to show

1461
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:26,680
up in a great fleet of spaceships all

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01:09:31,020 --> 01:09:28,510
over the world then the government would

1463
01:09:33,930 --> 01:09:31,030
be forced to reduce why they have being

1464
01:09:40,230 --> 01:09:33,940
kept in secret I'm not holding my breath

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:40,240
AJ but anyway what the government the

1466
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:42,130
Brazilian government has released and a

1467
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:43,990
few other governments in South America

1468
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,970
are these other few cases the handful of

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01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:51,040
cases that were revealed for the first

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:53,680
decade of the 21st century any

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01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:55,210
interesting cases are just a bunch of

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01:10:02,550 --> 01:09:56,980
lights in the sky yeah any good ones

1473
01:10:05,370 --> 01:10:02,560
yeah we have very good cases of both big

1474
01:10:08,250 --> 01:10:05,380
airliners seven three seven seven seven

1475
01:10:12,690 --> 01:10:08,260
seven being chased by your foes in

1476
01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:12,700
Brazil but not not very closely now and

1477
01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:15,220
the place where I live we have a huge

1478
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:17,880
air traffic and the airport of

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:20,350
contraband and the city of Curitiba and

1480
01:10:29,250 --> 01:10:23,770
in the papers release for the decade of

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01:10:34,590 --> 01:10:29,260
the 90s we have but perhaps dozen 2000

1482
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:34,600
cases actually of UFOs being seen by

1483
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:37,900
crews coming in this direction or going

1484
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:40,780
out from this Airport to Sao Paulo or

1485
01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:44,170
Rio or just coming from somewhere else

1486
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:47,380
and going over woody Chiba because we

1487
01:10:54,930 --> 01:10:49,860
have here one of the stations of the

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01:10:57,690 --> 01:10:54,940
Brazilian defense system Central graters

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01:11:00,270 --> 01:10:57,700
one of it is in Brasilia another one is

1490
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:00,280
here another one is in Manaus another

1491
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:03,250
one is in a CV they are a spread in

1492
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:05,440
several parts of Brazil we have a very

1493
01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:08,800
strong one because of the density of our

1494
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:11,830
air of our air traffic

1495
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:16,300
and it generated more reports of

1496
01:11:23,490 --> 01:11:19,930
sightings of your voice but if I may

1497
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:23,500
come back to to that resolution issued

1498
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:25,630
the Brazilian by the Brazilian commander

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01:11:33,300 --> 01:11:27,310
of the Brazilian Air Force the

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01:11:35,970 --> 01:11:33,310
resolution is called GC right v v 1 and

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:35,980
this resolution published in the

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:37,930
Brazilian preceding government

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01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:41,650
proceedings it's like a paper a

1504
01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:44,620
newspaper made published only everyday

1505
01:11:50,190 --> 01:11:47,230
actually only with the the resolutions

1506
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,200
taken by the government in all its

1507
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:52,000
entities and everything everything's

1508
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:54,970
official so if you tease if anything

1509
01:12:00,210 --> 01:11:57,130
official is done in Brazil it is there

1510
01:12:02,490 --> 01:12:00,220
is a resolution to support up so support

1511
01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:02,500
there and it is published in that in

1512
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:05,230
that paper and it becomes like a wall or

1513
01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:08,110
or something that is mandatory to be to

1514
01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:11,620
be done that's something like etc there

1515
01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:13,180
is United States in any other country

1516
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:16,630
and after that we we came up with a few

1517
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:18,940
questions to the commander of the

1518
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:21,280
Brazilian Air Force to which we have

1519
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:25,450
heard no replied no answer so far now

1520
01:12:33,330 --> 01:12:29,460
the document published says dead all

1521
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:33,340
reports of UFO sightings made in Brazil

1522
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:37,330
and I quote especially by air traffic

1523
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:41,410
controller and pilots are supposed to be

1524
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:46,300
centralized and in Brasilia the federal

1525
01:12:52,110 --> 01:12:49,120
kettle in a place called Brazilian Air

1526
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:52,120
Force air space actually defense command

1527
01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:56,050
Khandava and from that place this

1528
01:13:01,380 --> 01:12:59,170
reports are supposed to be sent to the

1529
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:01,390
National Archives for public scrutiny

1530
01:13:06,770 --> 01:13:05,140
and in any moment at all does that

1531
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:06,780
resolution say

1532
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:10,290
anything about investigating the cases

1533
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:13,910
and this is very odd because if a

1534
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:18,110
commander of an airliner flying suppose

1535
01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:20,940
from some bottle to announce a three

1536
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:25,380
hours flight with 150 souls inside the

1537
01:13:32,900 --> 01:13:28,800
plane if it is changed by UFOs at close

1538
01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:32,910
range and if he reports it according to

1539
01:13:39,230 --> 01:13:36,300
this regulation to this resolution his

1540
01:13:42,020 --> 01:13:39,240
report is to be set to dippers in an air

1541
01:13:44,450 --> 01:13:42,030
space Defense Command for the knowledge

1542
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,460
of our military and then it's supposed

1543
01:13:51,170 --> 01:13:46,640
to be sent to the National Archives and

1544
01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:51,180
period I believe it because either it's

1545
01:13:59,360 --> 01:13:56,460
it's not true if the government does so

1546
01:14:02,720 --> 01:13:59,370
this way if the military does so this

1547
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:02,730
way it will be neglecting very seriously

1548
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:06,660
a potential trap to declare to the air

1549
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:10,530
traffic in Brazil because it's one of

1550
01:14:17,380 --> 01:14:13,320
our of the military of the Brazilian

1551
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:17,390
force primary concern to defend to

1552
01:14:25,010 --> 01:14:21,090
control the Brazilian airspace territory

1553
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:25,020
if an airplane from Paraguay invades

1554
01:14:30,650 --> 01:14:27,930
Brazil we are supposed to react the

1555
01:14:34,490 --> 01:14:30,660
military supposed to defend to protect

1556
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:34,500
our airspace right well well AJ and also

1557
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:36,360
I mean I remember the big announcement

1558
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:40,170
uh you know in in 2009 how the Brazilian

1559
01:14:44,810 --> 01:14:41,930
government was going to be working

1560
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:44,820
hand-in-hand with the civilian UFO

1561
01:14:53,930 --> 01:14:48,570
community that they are going to be yeah

1562
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:53,940
it never happened did it well so so what

1563
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:55,770
do you think is going on do you think

1564
01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:57,570
that the government is just telling you

1565
01:15:02,900 --> 01:14:59,580
guys what you want to hear just

1566
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:02,910
releasing just enough information and

1567
01:15:08,330 --> 01:15:05,760
data and reports to keep you guys at

1568
01:15:10,190 --> 01:15:08,340
least somewhat happy and and they're

1569
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:10,200
sitting on the real good stuff so so

1570
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:13,710
what what do you propose what do you

1571
01:15:19,580 --> 01:15:16,980
think needs to be done by your you know

1572
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:19,590
Brazilian UFO community to get the

1573
01:15:23,190 --> 01:15:20,560
government in the middle

1574
01:15:26,190 --> 01:15:23,200
Terry to make good on their promises how

1575
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,200
are we gonna go about helping you get

1576
01:15:29,790 --> 01:15:27,760
the government in the military to come

1577
01:15:32,490 --> 01:15:29,800
come clean and before you answer that

1578
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:32,500
question AJ give air joining us with

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this is Leslie Kane and I'm with the

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you are listening to the podcast with aj

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gevaerd joining us with Jeanne and Chris

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on the para Cass exploring UFOs

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disclosure in Brazil before we paused

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for that brief break Chris had posed a

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long question of AJ AJ what's your

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answer well see first of all it has to

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be noted that UFO with boards sightings

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investigations are not a priority in

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Brazil for the Brazilian government or

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even for the military no but in when we

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started this campaign this movement in

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204 to ask our government to come clean

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01:20:54,030 --> 01:20:49,570
about it to release its paper first

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01:20:57,210 --> 01:20:54,040
we've we found some reluctance in doing

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so and after that and after few months

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we kind of heat some soft hearts and

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eventually we were received by the

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military some of them are a little bit

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01:21:14,370 --> 01:21:10,330
more sympathetic to the question than

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01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:14,380
others and the was something going on in

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01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:17,530
the sense that the military felt that

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01:21:23,670 --> 01:21:20,560
well what I have why not give to these

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01:21:27,390 --> 01:21:23,680
guys what they want but it's not

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01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:27,400
something that can be done from one day

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01:21:32,970 --> 01:21:30,310
to another it has to follow a series of

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procedures so the military started

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01:21:39,210 --> 01:21:36,520
taking that procedures to release what

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01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:39,220
we were asking and I believe that among

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that procedure is see what can be

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01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:45,220
released and what cannot be released at

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some point they said where where well

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there is a lot of paper that cannot be

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released but that is something that can

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01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,160
deal so let's give those guys and they

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01:21:58,860 --> 01:21:57,280
start giving us these papers but before

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:21:58,870
releasing it of

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01:22:04,530 --> 01:22:02,050
easily send the document to the National

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01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:04,540
Archives the military invited us for a

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01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:08,170
talk which happened in 205 six years ago

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01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:11,710
in Brazilian it was the first time in

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01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:14,530
history that you have for researchers

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01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:17,260
civilians like that the president

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committee of UFO researchers of which I

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was the director at that moment to last

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01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:24,010
year February it was the last time that

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01:22:30,180 --> 01:22:26,190
excuse me the first time we were ever

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01:22:33,210 --> 01:22:30,190
invited to that kind of meeting and that

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01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,220
was very good and we went to Brasilia we

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01:22:38,010 --> 01:22:35,440
had these doctors we spent a whole

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01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:38,020
morning with the military in a very

1732
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:41,110
sensitive areas of Brazilian Air Force

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01:22:48,150 --> 01:22:44,320
Defense Command and we were showed

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01:22:51,690 --> 01:22:48,160
papers not given this they showed us

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:51,700
piles of papers documents official

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01:22:57,660 --> 01:22:54,970
secret documents over a huge table and

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01:23:00,510 --> 01:22:57,670
said you cannot copy you cannot take it

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01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:00,520
with you you can only read it for some

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01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:03,070
time and this is what we did at that

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01:23:13,170 --> 01:23:07,500
moment we were promised that eventually

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01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:13,180
at some point the military will team up

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01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:15,730
with the Brazilian civilian UFO

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01:23:23,070 --> 01:23:20,800
researchers to investigate AJ that's

1744
01:23:25,290 --> 01:23:23,080
like going out on a date with a girl who

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01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:25,300
says baby we are gonna have a good time

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01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:27,940
tonight how about six at six or seven

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01:23:35,730 --> 01:23:30,010
dates later you're still waiting for the

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01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:35,740
good time you know what I mean yes it

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01:23:42,420 --> 01:23:37,320
sounds like you're a bunch of teasers

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01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:42,430
yeah kind of dance and we realize to ask

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01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:45,310
him the promise to be fulfilled but

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01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:48,880
right now our main concern is not that

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01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:50,800
because we realize that the government

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01:23:57,390 --> 01:23:53,460
won't do it the military was doing

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01:24:01,440 --> 01:23:57,400
because they like I told you before it's

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01:24:04,620 --> 01:24:01,450
not a priority for them however we can

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01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,630
and we will give up that if they don't

1758
01:24:09,069 --> 01:24:06,800
want to give us that

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01:24:11,740 --> 01:24:09,079
mission that that official committee of

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01:24:14,020 --> 01:24:11,750
your for research composed by both

1761
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:14,030
military and civilian if they don't want

1762
01:24:18,270 --> 01:24:15,920
to give us that okay don't give us

1763
01:24:22,209 --> 01:24:18,280
that's alright we'll keep up our

1764
01:24:26,490 --> 01:24:22,219
investigations of ourselves however what

1765
01:24:32,919 --> 01:24:26,500
we will not develop is our of our rights

1766
01:24:35,470 --> 01:24:32,929
to have that papers those papers that we

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01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:35,480
know really I mean they promise give it

1768
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:35,840
up

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01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:38,480
well AJ we've got a bunch of questions I

1770
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:40,250
know your time is limited with us today

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01:24:47,649 --> 01:24:44,239
and what we do is before every show

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01:24:49,390 --> 01:24:47,659
taping we give our forum listeners and

1773
01:24:52,689 --> 01:24:49,400
radio listeners and forum post is a

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01:24:53,859 --> 01:24:52,699
chance to ask you questions and we want

1775
01:24:55,689 --> 01:24:53,869
to get to some of the some of these

1776
01:24:58,299 --> 01:24:55,699
questions we've got a bunch of them for

1777
01:25:00,939 --> 01:24:58,309
you this comes from ditched digital

1778
01:25:03,010 --> 01:25:00,949
trickster he's one of our new forum

1779
01:25:04,780 --> 01:25:03,020
posters and he asked a very good

1780
01:25:06,220 --> 01:25:04,790
question he says on your last interview

1781
01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:06,230
with us it seemed that you were

1782
01:25:11,379 --> 01:25:09,710
depending a lot on witnesses and while

1783
01:25:13,959 --> 01:25:11,389
that's always helpful

1784
01:25:16,270 --> 01:25:13,969
he believes documentation and scientific

1785
01:25:19,209 --> 01:25:16,280
evidence is what is needed to move your

1786
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:19,219
research and paranormal research forward

1787
01:25:25,089 --> 01:25:21,770
what case have you researched that you

1788
01:25:27,339 --> 01:25:25,099
feel has the most documented information

1789
01:25:36,189 --> 01:25:27,349
and scientific evidence to back it up

1790
01:25:40,350 --> 01:25:36,199
well three to term we we have so many

1791
01:25:44,109 --> 01:25:40,360
cases but when you come up to scientific

1792
01:25:49,780 --> 01:25:44,119
evidence once the scientific evidence is

1793
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:49,790
that the screws of UFO pieces of it it's

1794
01:25:55,979 --> 01:25:52,610
it's tough to to reply that why is it

1795
01:25:59,669 --> 01:25:55,989
physical scientific evidence now we have

1796
01:26:03,910 --> 01:25:59,679
very strong cases very well documented

1797
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:03,920
but we don't have the same gel like

1798
01:26:09,250 --> 01:26:06,170
let's speak about Virginia caves very

1799
01:26:12,370 --> 01:26:09,260
briefly we know because we have covered

1800
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:12,380
when we I talked we I'm talking about

1801
01:26:21,109 --> 01:26:16,800
like a few dozen UFO researchers would

1802
01:26:25,939 --> 01:26:21,119
during a few months after January 206

1803
01:26:28,969 --> 01:26:25,949
excuse me 1 996 in a city of Virginia to

1804
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,979
cover all that I really investigate to

1805
01:26:33,739 --> 01:26:30,719
talk to witnesses and everything that

1806
01:26:36,379 --> 01:26:33,749
has to be done to properly conduct a

1807
01:26:39,049 --> 01:26:36,389
serious investigation towards the crash

1808
01:26:42,859 --> 01:26:39,059
of a UFO in the capture of at least two

1809
01:26:47,149 --> 01:26:42,869
creatures now this is the Virginia case

1810
01:26:50,179 --> 01:26:47,159
happen on January 20 1996 which is by

1811
01:26:53,169 --> 01:26:50,189
far considering I work with the

1812
01:26:58,429 --> 01:26:53,179
operation sponsor one of the best

1813
01:27:03,439 --> 01:26:58,439
documented UFO cases of all and I would

1814
01:27:05,779 --> 01:27:03,449
say it's x times more important and

1815
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:05,789
better documented in Roswell

1816
01:27:11,179 --> 01:27:08,130
just remember Roswell started being

1817
01:27:12,290 --> 01:27:11,189
investigated by accident 25 years after

1818
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:12,300
they have happened

1819
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:14,610
Virginia started being investigated a

1820
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:18,510
few hours after it happened it was very

1821
01:27:26,389 --> 01:27:23,090
fresh we had over a hundred first-hand

1822
01:27:28,549 --> 01:27:26,399
eyewitnesses of both the crash of the

1823
01:27:30,889 --> 01:27:28,559
saucer the catch of the creatures and

1824
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:30,899
the of the creatures who stay at large

1825
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:34,169
now this is a very well documented case

1826
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,329
but where are our scientific evidences

1827
01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:40,800
what would be considered scientific

1828
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:43,409
evidence that I could show it's easy

1829
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:47,610
here is the thing I only have the the

1830
01:27:53,959 --> 01:27:50,090
investigation and its results to present

1831
01:27:55,969 --> 01:27:53,969
which is the documentation of step by

1832
01:28:00,409 --> 01:27:55,979
step everything that happened like a big

1833
01:28:03,229 --> 01:28:00,419
puzzle thousands of pieces of each a few

1834
01:28:06,529 --> 01:28:03,239
hundred were put together and gave us a

1835
01:28:11,719 --> 01:28:06,539
very pretty picture of what happened

1836
01:28:13,759 --> 01:28:11,729
that several things about Cole arson and

1837
01:28:16,370 --> 01:28:13,769
some of the deaths that were associated

1838
01:28:18,139 --> 01:28:16,380
with the Chile's do we have any autopsy

1839
01:28:21,109 --> 01:28:18,149
reports do we have any sort of

1840
01:28:22,850 --> 01:28:21,119
documentation and evidence about how the

1841
01:28:26,810 --> 01:28:22,860
people died they were hit with these

1842
01:28:29,690 --> 01:28:26,820
particle beam type weapons the

1843
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:29,700
we're number of deaths do you guys have

1844
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:32,430
a database that has I'm sorry that

1845
01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:34,650
information that happened in the

1846
01:28:41,390 --> 01:28:37,350
seventies when Brazil was under a

1847
01:28:44,210 --> 01:28:41,400
dictatorship and this is also maybe the

1848
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:44,220
reason why we we don't have all the 2000

1849
01:28:50,660 --> 01:28:46,770
pages of the documents and the 500

1850
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:50,670
pictures in the 16 hours because it is

1851
01:28:57,740 --> 01:28:54,080
the same thing that happened with the

1852
01:29:01,880 --> 01:28:57,750
medical records of the victims of the

1853
01:29:05,180 --> 01:29:01,890
troopers in collides they're asked they

1854
01:29:11,630 --> 01:29:05,190
lost they were deteriorated by time they

1855
01:29:15,380 --> 01:29:11,640
were bad filed an improper drop in an

1856
01:29:19,190 --> 01:29:15,390
appropriate way and then they got lost

1857
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:19,200
now we had the over a thousand people

1858
01:29:25,790 --> 01:29:23,730
were attacked in quarries Island by the

1859
01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:25,800
troopers and I'll tell you what we

1860
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:27,420
really have to get into more of this our

1861
01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:30,080
next segment we have aj gevaerd

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brazilian UFO researcher with gene and

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are you tired of searching for great

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were without power

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hi this is nuclear physicist electors

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and Friedman you are listening to the

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pair against the gold standard a

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paranormal radio we have a che guevara

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01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:09,660
to answering your questions talking

1965
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:11,610
about very important cases in Brazil

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01:34:17,150 --> 01:34:14,489
with Jean and Chris on the para cast a

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01:34:21,110 --> 01:34:17,160
che would you continue yes sure

1968
01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:21,120
see we have for sure that over a

1969
01:34:26,570 --> 01:34:23,580
thousand people in the island of

1970
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:26,580
Kalani's I want because you know the

1971
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:30,320
trooper phenomena was all over large

1972
01:34:36,350 --> 01:34:33,750
region of the Amazon in the city of

1973
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:36,360
Parral but it was concentrated

1974
01:34:42,170 --> 01:34:40,080
concentrated in culeros island where the

1975
01:34:43,790 --> 01:34:42,180
operations also took place and it

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01:34:45,890 --> 01:34:43,800
happened because of the trooper

1977
01:34:48,620 --> 01:34:45,900
phenomenon and a thousand people over a

1978
01:34:51,890 --> 01:34:48,630
thousand people were attacked over a

1979
01:34:59,900 --> 01:34:51,900
thousand people of which we know for

1980
01:35:05,870 --> 01:34:59,910
sure that 400 were treated 400 went to

1981
01:35:08,300 --> 01:35:05,880
the small sanitarium or Hospital places

1982
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:08,310
small there's there's gotta be some

1983
01:35:13,930 --> 01:35:10,800
doctor reports there's got to be a paper

1984
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:13,940
trail there's got to be examination

1985
01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:18,690
reports and doctors you know notes on

1986
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:21,150
all this stuff I'm with 400 people being

1987
01:35:26,660 --> 01:35:23,880
treated you gotta have something yeah

1988
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:26,670
it's the case old we don't know where it

1989
01:35:31,580 --> 01:35:29,760
is not even the doctor would fill all

1990
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:31,590
those reports and we're not talking

1991
01:35:37,459 --> 01:35:35,130
about large rewards very detail we're

1992
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:37,469
talking about small reports of people

1993
01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:41,210
who live in in the fields farmers

1994
01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:45,120
fishermen very poor people and they have

1995
01:35:52,250 --> 01:35:47,400
a problem health problem they would go

1996
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to this very small hospital like two or

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three guys working there under the

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01:36:02,240 --> 01:35:58,560
supervision of one one doctor and she

1999
01:36:03,729 --> 01:36:02,250
was dr. Vermeil is a sinker violin she

2000
01:36:11,859 --> 01:36:03,739
was her

2001
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:11,869
physician just out of university

2002
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:14,730
graduating medicine she was sent that

2003
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:17,610
small village to that small hospital

2004
01:36:24,350 --> 01:36:21,449
having only like a couple of nurses and

2005
01:36:28,129 --> 01:36:24,360
one or two technicians to help her in

2006
01:36:30,979 --> 01:36:28,139
that place to treat people who had any

2007
01:36:33,140 --> 01:36:30,989
health problem at all and we're talking

2008
01:36:37,490 --> 01:36:33,150
about an ANA with 10,000 people they

2009
01:36:40,820 --> 01:36:37,500
only had that small Hospital to go to if

2010
01:36:43,370 --> 01:36:40,830
they have any problem and and their idea

2011
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,380
doctora delighted she told me when I

2012
01:36:48,350 --> 01:36:45,119
interviewed her a couple of years ago

2013
01:36:53,660 --> 01:36:48,360
and I did many times and she told me

2014
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:53,670
that that she received at least 400

2015
01:37:02,750 --> 01:36:58,320
patients coming to her teeny small

2016
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:02,760
Hospital Oh AJ we understand that but

2017
01:37:07,010 --> 01:37:05,040
where's the paper trail I mean where is

2018
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:07,020
all the documentation was it sent to the

2019
01:37:12,500 --> 01:37:10,170
government did she make you know copies

2020
01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:12,510
for the clinic that's government

2021
01:37:18,859 --> 01:37:15,409
property but you know this was a

2022
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:18,869
notations that were lost with time when

2023
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:22,320
I first interviewed the light in 205 I

2024
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:24,480
asked her do you have an idea where

2025
01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:27,119
those papers are well she told no a lady

2026
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:29,400
probably are lost because from time to

2027
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,130
time this kind of documentation is final

2028
01:37:37,609 --> 01:37:34,800
somewhere and if you don't perceive you

2029
01:37:39,859 --> 01:37:37,619
you see how how our authorities deal

2030
01:37:42,410 --> 01:37:39,869
with those kind of records they're most

2031
01:37:46,220 --> 01:37:42,420
gone they're most waste and

2032
01:37:50,060 --> 01:37:46,230
unfortunately they are kept in very bad

2033
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:50,070
conditions it's except in more populated

2034
01:37:54,530 --> 01:37:52,770
areas in our more developed areas like

2035
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:54,540
in the south of the country but we're

2036
01:37:59,990 --> 01:37:57,810
talking about a small village in this in

2037
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:00,000
an island in the middle of the Amazon

2038
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:02,850
something that happened in 1977 so I

2039
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:04,710
guess that they captured this is this

2040
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,110
records for a few more years then they

2041
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,679
what perhaps destroyed it and

2042
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:12,239
unfortunately we don't have it anymore

2043
01:38:17,180 --> 01:38:13,770
we don't have it but

2044
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:17,190
the memory of dr. avi might seem

2045
01:38:20,990 --> 01:38:18,090
carvalho

2046
01:38:24,170 --> 01:38:21,000
which is a very respected person in her

2047
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:24,180
community and the city of Belaya was one

2048
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:26,730
of the largest city in Brazil she even

2049
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:30,210
was the head of a post of some time and

2050
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in the city administration she's a very

2051
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:36,960
important person she's now not only a

2052
01:38:44,180 --> 01:38:39,570
doctor but she is also a college

2053
01:38:47,660 --> 01:38:44,190
professor in several artisan medicine ok

2054
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:47,670
well besides Vanina and calories in the

2055
01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:51,090
overflights of the the main Brazilian

2056
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:52,800
metropolitan areas that were mentioned

2057
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:55,920
in Leslie Keens book what other cases

2058
01:39:02,690 --> 01:38:59,280
turn you on the most and you know great

2059
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:02,700
you're in your top lists of Brazilian

2060
01:39:09,170 --> 01:39:06,080
UFO cases well just recently we have had

2061
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:09,180
the first cases of crop circles in

2062
01:39:14,270 --> 01:39:11,970
Brazil for the very first time I believe

2063
01:39:17,300 --> 01:39:14,280
that last time we spoke we haven't had

2064
01:39:20,170 --> 01:39:17,310
any or have way well the first one that

2065
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:20,180
we had happened in November

2066
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:24,690
208 and it excited us very much because

2067
01:39:30,020 --> 01:39:27,570
you know the crop circles are definitely

2068
01:39:32,060 --> 01:39:30,030
connected to the UFO phenomena one way

2069
01:39:36,130 --> 01:39:32,070
how do you know that well I thought I

2070
01:39:39,860 --> 01:39:36,140
don't have any any dogged whatsoever

2071
01:39:42,770 --> 01:39:39,870
UFOs with UFOs seen in the night that

2072
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:42,780
these formations were created yes not

2073
01:39:52,370 --> 01:39:49,050
only in Brazil just a few hours before

2074
01:39:55,220 --> 01:39:52,380
the formations were found in the sea of

2075
01:39:57,770 --> 01:39:55,230
heap or so here in salina people saw

2076
01:39:59,630 --> 01:39:57,780
lights in the sky and sometimes could be

2077
01:40:02,060 --> 01:39:59,640
coming closer to the fields over there

2078
01:40:05,180 --> 01:40:02,070
of course there there is a link the

2079
01:40:08,780 --> 01:40:05,190
connection between the UFO phenomena the

2080
01:40:10,580 --> 01:40:08,790
intelligences beyond the of a phenomena

2081
01:40:12,650 --> 01:40:10,590
and the crop circle we're talking about

2082
01:40:14,990 --> 01:40:12,660
course about the village it's made for

2083
01:40:18,290 --> 01:40:15,000
crop circles we're talking about because

2084
01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:18,300
we know that like 90% of all crop

2085
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,910
formations these days are faked by the

2086
01:40:25,660 --> 01:40:23,840
circle makers in other groups but of

2087
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,670
those

2088
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:27,199
percent of cases that are legend

2089
01:40:32,740 --> 01:40:29,810
legislate we know for sure that there is

2090
01:40:35,620 --> 01:40:32,750
a connection we've exited a storytelling

2091
01:40:39,490 --> 01:40:35,630
Genesis no nope well these cases down

2092
01:40:41,140 --> 01:40:39,500
near the where Bolivia is a Brazil comes

2093
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:41,150
together with Argentina my geographies a

2094
01:40:50,590 --> 01:40:46,400
little shady here yes neighbors in the

2095
01:40:57,130 --> 01:40:50,600
south we have why Argentina Paraguay in

2096
01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:57,140
Bolivia in the South then we have yeah

2097
01:41:02,620 --> 01:40:59,840
their way north but but there were some

2098
01:41:07,330 --> 01:41:02,630
cases like three or four years ago in

2099
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:07,340
near Salta and there were cop formations

2100
01:41:12,370 --> 01:41:09,410
or blowdown events associated with those

2101
01:41:18,820 --> 01:41:12,380
cases is it similar to those salta cases

2102
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:18,830
no the cases a few hundred miles from

2103
01:41:24,510 --> 01:41:21,650
the city of brussels where we have the

2104
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:24,520
confirmations in brazil is it but

2105
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:27,170
although they are different in the shape

2106
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:30,290
and form of design they happen at the

2107
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:33,530
same time almost at the same time within

2108
01:41:40,060 --> 01:41:37,310
weeks they they were formed but you know

2109
01:41:44,010 --> 01:41:40,070
what is most most interesting about our

2110
01:41:47,169 --> 01:41:44,020
crop formations here since we know that

2111
01:41:49,180 --> 01:41:47,179
okay there is a connection with the UFO

2112
01:41:51,580 --> 01:41:49,190
phenomena the most interesting thing

2113
01:41:54,939 --> 01:41:51,590
about it is that you know everybody

2114
01:41:58,570 --> 01:41:54,949
knows the the brazil has contributed

2115
01:42:01,780 --> 01:41:58,580
with the word wild ufology with almost

2116
01:42:03,850 --> 01:42:01,790
everything that is more interesting now

2117
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:03,860
we have the first abduction cases we

2118
01:42:09,970 --> 01:42:07,250
have the first the first sexual relation

2119
01:42:11,890 --> 01:42:09,980
inside spaceships we have the first

2120
01:42:14,890 --> 01:42:11,900
landings we have most of the first

2121
01:42:18,250 --> 01:42:14,900
everything in the most the biggest cases

2122
01:42:22,300 --> 01:42:18,260
in in all segments that you consider in

2123
01:42:25,090 --> 01:42:22,310
ufology world widely is just he can only

2124
01:42:27,610 --> 01:42:25,100
to verify that it's just a matter of

2125
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:27,620
taking a look at the literature and you

2126
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:30,320
see that Brazil has contributed but

2127
01:42:36,730 --> 01:42:35,090
almost the most of the very important

2128
01:42:41,050 --> 01:42:36,740
cases of UFOs

2129
01:42:46,930 --> 01:42:41,060
and yet is going on for decades and yet

2130
01:42:50,050 --> 01:42:46,940
we have never had never until two eight

2131
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:50,060
one single case of crop formation in

2132
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:54,730
Brazil that's a very strange thing why

2133
01:42:59,680 --> 01:42:56,810
now we know that the crop formation

2134
01:43:02,200 --> 01:42:59,690
start in UK in the eighties in the late

2135
01:43:04,810 --> 01:43:02,210
seventies early eighties and they went

2136
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:04,820
up and up and up and then they started

2137
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:07,280
going to other countries now we have

2138
01:43:13,690 --> 01:43:10,370
like 30 or 40 countries where there are

2139
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:13,700
during summer time they are spread all

2140
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:16,610
over we are talking about thousands of

2141
01:43:22,540 --> 01:43:19,850
crop formations in 30 40 countries of

2142
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:22,550
course most of them is too concentrated

2143
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:26,210
in South England doesn't that argue in

2144
01:43:30,490 --> 01:43:28,610
favor the possibility here that crop

2145
01:43:32,410 --> 01:43:30,500
circles are generally a man-made

2146
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:32,420
phenomenon rather than something it's

2147
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paranormal well I don't think so because

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you know the informations are being been

2149
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:42,740
found in so many areas like in South

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01:43:51,250 --> 01:43:47,650
Korea two years ago we have this huge

2151
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:51,260
enormous confirmation something that

2152
01:43:57,820 --> 01:43:54,320
would feel like 8 or dead football

2153
01:44:03,040 --> 01:43:57,830
fields how how someone does something

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01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:03,050
like that and y know here in brazil this

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example yeah tell you what before we do

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that we're gonna break for another few

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01:46:08,149 --> 01:46:04,679
he's been answering your questions and

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01:46:11,709 --> 01:46:08,159
he was talking about on the para cast a

2201
01:46:15,020 --> 01:46:11,719
huge crop circle give us water trails

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01:46:17,540 --> 01:46:15,030
yes we had a huge cup sir

2203
01:46:20,660 --> 01:46:17,550
crop circles in several hours of the

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01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:20,670
world when we had this first case of

2205
01:46:25,969 --> 01:46:23,010
crops the crop circle in Brazil

2206
01:46:30,979 --> 01:46:25,979
conformation here in this state of Santa

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01:46:36,109 --> 01:46:30,989
Catarina in November to eight I am just

2208
01:46:38,989 --> 01:46:36,119
a few drove there within hours after

2209
01:46:42,020 --> 01:46:38,999
they happened to check out to see its

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01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:42,030
condition how was it done why is it

2211
01:46:47,810 --> 01:46:45,570
possibly man-made was it made by any

2212
01:46:50,569 --> 01:46:47,820
other sort of intelligences whatever I

2213
01:46:53,390 --> 01:46:50,579
spoke to witnesses of the phenomena

2214
01:46:57,140 --> 01:46:53,400
people who found it as well as people

2215
01:47:00,040 --> 01:46:57,150
who live around that field and I came to

2216
01:47:03,949 --> 01:47:00,050
the conclusion that think there was no

2217
01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:03,959
way anybody could have done that and

2218
01:47:09,709 --> 01:47:06,209
besides we have other corroborating

2219
01:47:12,350 --> 01:47:09,719
information like loss of light the

2220
01:47:16,069 --> 01:47:12,360
typical balls of light were seen in a

2221
01:47:19,699 --> 01:47:16,079
few hours before the crop formations

2222
01:47:22,250 --> 01:47:19,709
were found in the morning of a Sunday so

2223
01:47:25,129 --> 01:47:22,260
during that Saturday night the sunny

2224
01:47:29,330 --> 01:47:25,139
morning people saw balls of light and

2225
01:47:32,989 --> 01:47:29,340
then there they were the confirmations I

2226
01:47:35,419 --> 01:47:32,999
went there in exam day and I spoke with

2227
01:47:38,779 --> 01:47:35,429
technicians people who specialized in

2228
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:38,789
crops and wheat crops and near

2229
01:47:44,899 --> 01:47:41,760
agriculture engineers and they all said

2230
01:47:48,910 --> 01:47:44,909
to me I haven't seen in my entire life

2231
01:47:52,489 --> 01:47:48,920
anything like this I don't know of any

2232
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:52,499
machine or any technique who could

2233
01:47:59,689 --> 01:47:55,199
produce such effect in the wheat

2234
01:48:03,979 --> 01:47:59,699
now how could that be man-made that's

2235
01:48:07,250 --> 01:48:03,989
the way and besides if they wear we have

2236
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:07,260
the question why because if something is

2237
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:11,610
fade it is affected by someone with some

2238
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:15,090
reason where is this someone what is the

2239
01:48:18,860 --> 01:48:15,920
reason

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01:48:22,810 --> 01:48:18,870
suppose does someone have the knowledge

2241
01:48:27,260 --> 01:48:22,820
and the capability of producing such

2242
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:27,270
something that's symmetric something so

2243
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:32,480
unique what did this guy gain infinite

2244
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:35,010
this is the question that has to be made

2245
01:48:39,740 --> 01:48:37,770
when I went to investigate this case and

2246
01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:39,750
like took the pictures and they talk to

2247
01:48:45,580 --> 01:48:42,239
the people and I make my reports and I

2248
01:48:49,220 --> 01:48:45,590
sent it all over to so many places I

2249
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:49,230
first thing I did before sending this

2250
01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:52,800
information up was talking to the

2251
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:56,310
experts in this phenomena guys like

2252
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:00,800
Colin Andrews Nancy Talbot and they said

2253
01:49:08,660 --> 01:49:05,940
the characteristics that we have in the

2254
01:49:13,870 --> 01:49:08,670
wheat plants here in this formation

2255
01:49:16,970 --> 01:49:13,880
Brazil as this is the same as in all the

2256
01:49:18,380 --> 01:49:16,980
legitimate confirmations in many other

2257
01:49:21,500 --> 01:49:18,390
places in the world

2258
01:49:25,220 --> 01:49:21,510
so you took plant and soil samples and

2259
01:49:27,860 --> 01:49:25,230
had them tested I took samples I took

2260
01:49:31,250 --> 01:49:27,870
plant samples but I didn't have them

2261
01:49:34,250 --> 01:49:31,260
tested because at that time when I came

2262
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:34,260
here we dead material to the city of

2263
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,530
Quincy but I couldn't find immediately

2264
01:49:41,540 --> 01:49:39,360
anyone who could do any type of the

2265
01:49:46,910 --> 01:49:41,550
proper analysis of the in that material

2266
01:49:49,130 --> 01:49:46,920
and the only one laboratory which would

2267
01:49:51,380 --> 01:49:49,140
do that would charge us so much amount

2268
01:49:55,220 --> 01:49:51,390
of money that I we decided not to do

2269
01:49:57,290 --> 01:49:55,230
because BLT researcher Nancy Talbot of

2270
01:50:00,530 --> 01:49:57,300
course has access to all sorts of

2271
01:50:02,810 --> 01:50:00,540
diagnostic testing equipment in

2272
01:50:06,050 --> 01:50:02,820
personnel of course Levengood was still

2273
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,060
operating and doing work back in 2008

2274
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:07,440
did you send any

2275
01:50:13,010 --> 01:50:10,770
- Nancy no just photos and reports they

2276
01:50:16,729 --> 01:50:13,020
didn't send any any of the and in the

2277
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:16,739
samples and also I was told that after

2278
01:50:23,959 --> 01:50:21,090
so many hours has passed in rain it

2279
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:23,969
after the crops and people who stepped

2280
01:50:28,970 --> 01:50:24,930
on it

2281
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:28,980
and there is no point in doing any

2282
01:50:35,450 --> 01:50:32,489
analyzes anyway unfortunately but we

2283
01:50:40,370 --> 01:50:35,460
waited until this phenomena happen again

2284
01:50:44,150 --> 01:50:40,380
and it did in the year 209 just one year

2285
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:44,160
after the first crop circles and in the

2286
01:50:52,670 --> 01:50:47,730
same area of Brazil precisely in the

2287
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:52,680
same small town then one year after we

2288
01:50:59,890 --> 01:50:56,370
have are not a big firm ation this time

2289
01:51:03,260 --> 01:50:59,900
this time not circular one but

2290
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:03,270
triangular one combined with several one

2291
01:51:09,229 --> 01:51:05,370
you know what AG but that's the point is

2292
01:51:13,580 --> 01:51:09,239
why not send the sample to Nancy to look

2293
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:13,590
at that I was expecting more cases to

2294
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:17,930
happen and that I could have samples

2295
01:51:26,270 --> 01:51:23,520
fresher more fresh it really you know

2296
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:26,280
for those types of sample testing time

2297
01:51:30,979 --> 01:51:29,130
the time element isn't as important as

2298
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:30,989
let's say a forensic sample from a

2299
01:51:35,810 --> 01:51:33,210
cattle mutilation there you do have

2300
01:51:39,950 --> 01:51:35,820
unless you fix the sample in formalin or

2301
01:51:43,689 --> 01:51:39,960
a second best in in alcohol you know

2302
01:51:46,670 --> 01:51:43,699
crop plant samples and soil samples

2303
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,680
pretty much retain the residual elements

2304
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:48,719
of their environment for quite quite

2305
01:51:52,970 --> 01:51:50,880
some time I mean you can seal it up

2306
01:51:55,790 --> 01:51:52,980
really carefully and send it off to the

2307
01:51:58,640 --> 01:51:55,800
US and four or five days later they can

2308
01:52:01,580 --> 01:51:58,650
go ahead and put it up you know in a lab

2309
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:01,590
and do the the testing you know the time

2310
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:03,930
element isn't as important for plant and

2311
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:07,170
soil as it is for forensic I was told is

2312
01:52:16,220 --> 01:52:13,170
yes so anyway we expected more cases to

2313
01:52:19,919 --> 01:52:16,230
happen in the following days so we could

2314
01:52:23,490 --> 01:52:19,929
get fresh material untouched

2315
01:52:25,590 --> 01:52:23,500
with no rain over not not signs of

2316
01:52:28,140 --> 01:52:25,600
people stepping on it so we could have

2317
01:52:32,810 --> 01:52:28,150
fresh but what happens but was that a

2318
01:52:37,169 --> 01:52:32,820
tragedy went on in that part of Brazil

2319
01:52:41,630 --> 01:52:37,179
floods all over people died people

2320
01:52:46,350 --> 01:52:41,640
become homeless you know because of a

2321
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:46,360
huge amount of terrain in the following

2322
01:52:54,899 --> 01:52:51,310
days and because of that we don't know

2323
01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:54,909
if any other case that happening and we

2324
01:53:03,180 --> 01:52:58,650
just couldn't track it but last year

2325
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:03,190
again at near 2 or 10 we had in the same

2326
01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:07,449
location again formations this is very

2327
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:10,630
odd because if you if you consider what

2328
01:53:16,979 --> 01:53:13,390
I told in the previous segment that in

2329
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:16,989
the whole Easter of ufology Brazil has

2330
01:53:22,979 --> 01:53:20,050
given so much contribution in so many

2331
01:53:26,610 --> 01:53:22,989
areas to the UFO phenomena investigation

2332
01:53:28,770 --> 01:53:26,620
and yet we have never had one single

2333
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:28,780
case of crop formation in Brazil and

2334
01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:34,510
then we had until 8:00 in other

2335
01:53:39,300 --> 01:53:37,150
countries this is odd ok but now you've

2336
01:53:40,919 --> 01:53:39,310
had more recent cases why not get the

2337
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:40,929
samples out there let's find out what's

2338
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:47,920
going on confirmation in the same time

2339
01:53:53,340 --> 01:53:50,500
and I'm not the case of crop formation

2340
01:53:59,880 --> 01:53:53,350
in the same time in the following years

2341
01:54:03,780 --> 01:53:59,890
in the 209 in Jordan I am prepared to

2342
01:54:07,709 --> 01:54:03,790
have this time to get this material as

2343
01:54:10,830 --> 01:54:07,719
soon as the crop formation appeared in

2344
01:54:14,939 --> 01:54:10,840
that area but what was a way to tell is

2345
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:14,949
that the strange thing is that we for 30

2346
01:54:19,229 --> 01:54:17,170
years after this phenomena have have

2347
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:19,239
been going on all over the world we

2348
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:21,730
never had any and then we had and

2349
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:26,110
there's a specific area of Brazil well

2350
01:54:29,310 --> 01:54:27,940
you know the skeptics the skeptics out

2351
01:54:31,470 --> 01:54:29,320
there would say well of course somebody

2352
01:54:34,590 --> 01:54:31,480
finally got motivated enough

2353
01:54:36,420 --> 01:54:34,600
to go out maybe practice somewhere you

2354
01:54:38,940 --> 01:54:36,430
know in an obscure area and then go

2355
01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:38,950
ahead and into a high-profile crop

2356
01:54:46,170 --> 01:54:41,320
circle this this is a very slippery

2357
01:54:49,500 --> 01:54:46,180
slope well again you know I think crop

2358
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:49,510
circles are are more of a red herring

2359
01:54:53,729 --> 01:54:51,760
really in terms of dealing with the UFO

2360
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:53,739
phenomenon I have a question here from

2361
01:54:59,970 --> 01:54:56,080
one of our longtime posters Blowfish and

2362
01:55:02,940 --> 01:54:59,980
he wants to know about us Oh cases you

2363
01:55:05,150 --> 01:55:02,950
know unidentified submerged object cases

2364
01:55:08,010 --> 01:55:05,160
by eyewitnesses which have been

2365
01:55:10,890 --> 01:55:08,020
potentially reported by Brazilian civil

2366
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:10,900
and military authorities in inland lakes

2367
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:13,840
rivers and you know within the the

2368
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:16,330
interior of South America and Brazil

2369
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,810
other than the the cloris cases which

2370
01:55:25,290 --> 01:55:22,000
many of our listeners are familiar with

2371
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:25,300
have there been any underwater UFO cases

2372
01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:29,770
in inland bodies of water in Brazil hey

2373
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:31,600
Jay let's hold that answer for a second

2374
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:34,510
we have aj gevaerd on our show this week

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of the Brazilian UFO magazine asked the

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key question about submersible UFOs AJ

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yes we have plenty of cases of

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submersible UFOs sometimes coming out of

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lakes and comes till now the rivers very

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huge rivers and sometimes coming out of

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the oceans we have thousands of miles of

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oceans of sea Shores in Brazil as you

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know we have even cases involving

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objects and an unidentified flying

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objects flying close to Brazilian Navy

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vessels in the country and also an

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marine rivers where the Persian Navy is

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also present we have cases that happen

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in the Amazon now you know that the

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Amazon is cut by several huge rivers if

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you go there and talk to people you will

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realize that the you phenomena is so

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intensely connected to their lives then

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perhaps in no other part of the world

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you will see such connection between

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people in the UFO phenomena I have just

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arrived from the Amazon last May and I

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spent 10 days there investigating cases

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in a series of islands some some hundred

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kilometers at 60 miles west of city of

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Manaus in a place called Anna Vilnius

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and I spoke to a lot of people and what

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you hear is just astounded people have

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the almost daily sightings of objects

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they describe them in terms of what they

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know mostly superfish superstitions or

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religiously they give you names or they

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describe the phenomena the way they can

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son of this objects can't just come out

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of the water now I have this very

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02:02:27,340 --> 02:02:22,640
interesting report that was given to

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me not by a native but by a businessman

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who owns one of the largest jungle

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hotels in the Amazon it is called our

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Yahoo towers it's like 50 50 miles west

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of Manaus it's a huge huge hotel there

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are famous guys like even Bill Clinton

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had been there and lots of celebrities

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because it's a very very unique place

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the owner of that of that hotel he goes

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almost daily from Manaus in his boat to

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the hotel so he has to go to the Negro

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neither for white one hour one hour on a

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very fast boat and he has had several

2521
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:18,770
observation of strange phenomena of

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02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:23,050
which a few cases are structured

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disc-shaped object this gentleman just

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gave me a witness report just gave me

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the description of the exciting that he

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had like a cup of years ago doing the

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same thing with a few of his employees

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in his boat from Manaus up River Negro

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River to the hotel area what hours later

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are these objects coming out of the

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river or are they going into the river

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yes he saw in this particular case a

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huge object he disc-shaped object coming

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out of the water so lonely and he could

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see in the water just going around it

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and dropping back to the river while his

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object was hovering silently disc-shaped

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metallic object with surrounding lights

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just came out of the water and started

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moving very slowly and then an op and

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just disappeared at the tremendous

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anybody have a cellphone and bite get a

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photograph at that time that gentleman

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has a cell phone but he couldn't make

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any any any register of that

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unfortunately but among the tourists and

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people who who go to spend time at that

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hotel we had some photos that are being

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analyzed as we speak of interesting

2550
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objects but you see sometimes they are

2551
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so far away and they appear so fast that

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people just don't have a chance tomato I

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know about that no a nice register of

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that it's tough you gotta be prepared

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here's another question from Blowfish

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who just asked that last question during

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the Cold War did Brazilian did the

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Brazilian military ever encounter a

2559
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similar UFO case with a UFO near an

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ordnance base like they're giving the

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Bentwaters case as an example do you

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have any Brazilian cases that seem to be

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focused on a military installation where

2564
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ordnance is stored yes like that and I

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recollect one a particular case that was

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described to me by the former Minister

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of Defense in Brazil strucker's Montero

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in the government of Fernando quality

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memories some 20 years ago this

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gentleman at that time he wasn't

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Minister he was the commander of the

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Brazilian air space Defense Command and

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he told me that he was in his home when

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he got phone calls from his people that

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were at a particular base of the

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Brazilian Air Force and there was this

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huge object the disc shaped object

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coming over the buildings the main

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buildings of the base and the men were

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starting to shoot at the UFOs and

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someone

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charge of that troops called the demand

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the minister the former minister and

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told him what was going on that everyone

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was very much afraid and he said yeah

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[Music]

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you have a work with me you know I want

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don't have a lot of time left here now

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are there any instances there where they

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try to shoot at UFOs and the UFOs shoot

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back not recently and the cases that we

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have on file aren't exactly very

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accurately in the Kerala's cases there

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were a couple hundreds that tried to

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shoot shoot at the troopers in the

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Amazon you find cases of people who shot

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shotguns and UFOs but not that UFOs shot

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back there being kind to those dumb

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earthlings right in the Amazon he has

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know what if I had eight or ten children

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with over-the-counter stuff not working

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this ear wax buildup well after two

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weeks of taking heart and body extract

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my ear wax buildup almost completely

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cleared up could this be the effect of

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itself my hearing is almost completely

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back to normal order by calling eight

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long and healthy life AJ give aired

2704
02:12:58,000 --> 02:12:56,090
joining us for another segment with Jean

2705
02:13:00,250 --> 02:12:58,010
and Chris on the power cast we're

2706
02:13:03,700 --> 02:13:00,260
talking about instances where they have

2707
02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:03,710
shot at the UFOs but the UFO knots or

2708
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:05,510
whatever they are were gracious enough

2709
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:07,250
not to shoot back because we'd be in

2710
02:13:11,410 --> 02:13:09,199
trouble but there's no sign that when

2711
02:13:14,950 --> 02:13:11,420
they shoot at them they cause damage is

2712
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:14,960
there yes well let me report two cases

2713
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:17,090
of my knowledge one that I ever have

2714
02:13:22,540 --> 02:13:19,850
investigated personally in the Amazon it

2715
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:22,550
happened to a man who had like six or

2716
02:13:28,810 --> 02:13:25,250
seven or eight kids or something I visit

2717
02:13:31,870 --> 02:13:28,820
the small island where he lives in the

2718
02:13:34,510 --> 02:13:31,880
Amazon River and he told me that well I

2719
02:13:36,910 --> 02:13:34,520
have seen his boss of life because they

2720
02:13:39,180 --> 02:13:36,920
did of course they don't call them UFOs

2721
02:13:42,220 --> 02:13:39,190
flying saucers or something like that

2722
02:13:44,590 --> 02:13:42,230
they compound flight and they give names

2723
02:13:47,350 --> 02:13:44,600
three and this gentleman said that he

2724
02:13:50,260 --> 02:13:47,360
was he was afraid of it because the ball

2725
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:50,270
right would come almost every night and

2726
02:13:56,890 --> 02:13:53,410
he was bothering him and in creating

2727
02:13:58,810 --> 02:13:56,900
some panic among the kids and other kids

2728
02:14:02,590 --> 02:13:58,820
in the village in his small village so

2729
02:14:06,580 --> 02:14:02,600
he decided shut it and he did it he shot

2730
02:14:09,580 --> 02:14:06,590
a few times with his shotgun and nothing

2731
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:09,590
happened he don't even know if the

2732
02:14:15,400 --> 02:14:12,410
bullets hit anything and he would just

2733
02:14:18,430 --> 02:14:15,410
kept staying there and then eventually

2734
02:14:22,900 --> 02:14:18,440
to enter way and he went over and over

2735
02:14:25,209 --> 02:14:22,910
during weeks until this guy decided to

2736
02:14:28,420 --> 02:14:25,219
give up and say well there's nothing I

2737
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:28,430
can do I tried shoot him in it in many

2738
02:14:35,050 --> 02:14:32,000
different ways at close range from far

2739
02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:35,060
away and I don't just simply don't see

2740
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:38,180
that I have heat or anything happened to

2741
02:14:45,150 --> 02:14:40,880
that object so he eventually gave up

2742
02:14:47,919 --> 02:14:45,160
that's a case that you will find several

2743
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:47,929
similar to its any hammers are because

2744
02:14:52,510 --> 02:14:49,280
in the general people

2745
02:14:55,030 --> 02:14:52,520
Carrie gasps the caravan is done that's

2746
02:14:57,940 --> 02:14:55,040
a fact and and if this is something that

2747
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:57,950
they don't understand that posed some

2748
02:15:03,580 --> 02:15:00,560
sort of trap if they few afraid they

2749
02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:03,590
were shooting it oh yes easily not only

2750
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:05,360
in the Amazon but many other places of

2751
02:15:13,300 --> 02:15:10,010
South America in wild places yeah in

2752
02:15:18,250 --> 02:15:13,310
places like Peru we have many cases of

2753
02:15:22,450 --> 02:15:18,260
people shooting it at UFOs but very few

2754
02:15:24,430 --> 02:15:22,460
cases in which the UFO shot back you

2755
02:15:26,200 --> 02:15:24,440
said okay that point is here's in

2756
02:15:28,260 --> 02:15:26,210
shooting back

2757
02:15:31,060 --> 02:15:28,270
we foolish earthlings who dare do this

2758
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:31,070
any signs if they actually destroyed

2759
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:33,050
something there is a case that happened

2760
02:15:41,140 --> 02:15:37,490
in the south of Brazil in this alley in

2761
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:41,150
which this guy was warding was guarding

2762
02:15:45,850 --> 02:15:43,250
or was watch guarding any military

2763
02:15:47,770 --> 02:15:45,860
installation and he was with his shotgun

2764
02:15:50,620 --> 02:15:47,780
it happened like 20 years ago or

2765
02:15:54,850 --> 02:15:50,630
something and he saw this huge object

2766
02:15:56,980 --> 02:15:54,860
during a night coming over the military

2767
02:15:59,950 --> 02:15:56,990
installation that he was guarding and he

2768
02:16:04,270 --> 02:15:59,960
decided to shoot with his shotgun and he

2769
02:16:16,510 --> 02:16:04,280
shot at it and the bullet returned and

2770
02:16:19,420 --> 02:16:16,520
hit his left something where there's a

2771
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,430
scene once where Superman in one of the

2772
02:16:22,690 --> 02:16:21,920
movies they shoot a gun at him right at

2773
02:16:25,390 --> 02:16:22,700
his eye

2774
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:25,400
and guess what just pops right out the

2775
02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:29,210
bullet without the I do

2776
02:16:33,339 --> 02:16:31,370
AJ you know we've you know I've been

2777
02:16:34,750 --> 02:16:33,349
following your work I've been a big fan

2778
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:34,760
of yours for many years as you know

2779
02:16:40,089 --> 02:16:37,130
we've corresponded a few times over the

2780
02:16:42,850 --> 02:16:40,099
years we met at a couple of conferences

2781
02:16:45,640 --> 02:16:42,860
and you know I've always really got the

2782
02:16:48,009 --> 02:16:45,650
feeling that you are firmly planted in

2783
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:48,019
the extra-terrestrial hypothesis camp

2784
02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:50,719
that you feel aliens or arriving here

2785
02:16:55,620 --> 02:16:53,510
from other star systems interacting with

2786
02:16:58,120 --> 02:16:55,630
humanity interacting with this planet

2787
02:17:01,299 --> 02:16:58,130
what are your feelings about other

2788
02:17:02,650 --> 02:17:01,309
theories for instance makto neighs who

2789
02:17:05,380 --> 02:17:02,660
we lost they're a couple

2790
02:17:07,050 --> 02:17:05,390
years ago his theory of the crypto

2791
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:07,060
terrestrials that we're dealing with

2792
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:09,290
aliens that are actually as tourists

2793
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:11,840
terrestrial as we are do you feel that

2794
02:17:19,330 --> 02:17:15,110
this is exclusively an et phenomenon or

2795
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:19,340
do you mind that we are dealing with

2796
02:17:25,690 --> 02:17:22,250
something that is as estriol as we are

2797
02:17:27,550 --> 02:17:25,700
and and possibly lives here with us what

2798
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:27,560
are your feelings on that theory well I

2799
02:17:33,820 --> 02:17:31,040
think there's a variety of theories to

2800
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:33,830
consider except the Hester hypothesis

2801
02:17:37,830 --> 02:17:36,290
just one of it I think it's more likely

2802
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:37,840
that they are accepting ourselves

2803
02:17:43,450 --> 02:17:40,490
because see what we are doing we are

2804
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:43,460
visiting other planets at least sending

2805
02:17:48,280 --> 02:17:46,850
our probes to other planets this very

2806
02:17:52,090 --> 02:17:48,290
moment that we're talking here there are

2807
02:17:54,990 --> 02:17:52,100
so many machines digging the soil of

2808
02:17:58,390 --> 02:17:55,000
Mars or Venus or taking pictures of

2809
02:18:02,040 --> 02:17:58,400
rings of Saturn or satellites of Jupiter

2810
02:18:03,970 --> 02:18:02,050
or whatever because it is what

2811
02:18:08,370 --> 02:18:03,980
civilizations I believe that they when

2812
02:18:10,990 --> 02:18:08,380
they reach a such a level of achievement

2813
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:11,000
from out of achievement they have to go

2814
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:13,610
out there planets to see what it's

2815
02:18:20,470 --> 02:18:17,810
around so I guess that most of the UFOs

2816
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:20,480
that we see are just like our probes

2817
02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:23,330
that we send to Mars that we send to

2818
02:18:28,540 --> 02:18:26,210
Jupiter that we send to chase comments

2819
02:18:31,060 --> 02:18:28,550
or whatever asteroids but much more

2820
02:18:33,430 --> 02:18:31,070
developed that they can go what about

2821
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:33,440
the beans okay a probe is one thing I

2822
02:18:39,160 --> 02:18:35,210
can understand that but but how about

2823
02:18:42,580 --> 02:18:39,170
all these the bewildering confusing

2824
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:42,590
array of beans like in South America you

2825
02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:46,130
have like two foot tall hairy dwarves in

2826
02:18:50,110 --> 02:18:46,730
Russia

2827
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:50,120
you have big tall robots in China

2828
02:18:55,900 --> 02:18:53,120
they're reported as dragons in Australia

2829
02:18:58,030 --> 02:18:55,910
they're reported into the tradition of

2830
02:19:02,380 --> 02:18:58,040
this people to the tradition of these

2831
02:19:04,980 --> 02:19:02,390
cultures but if you see 99 percent

2832
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:04,990
almost 100 percent of all

2833
02:19:10,990 --> 02:19:07,850
extraterrestrial oral or let's say the

2834
02:19:12,970 --> 02:19:11,000
bangs excuse for the word exit Astra the

2835
02:19:14,980 --> 02:19:12,980
bings almost a hundred percent of them

2836
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:14,990
are just like us they have

2837
02:19:21,670 --> 02:19:18,800
next one's a body a neck they had they

2838
02:19:24,700 --> 02:19:21,680
have two eyes they have a mouth and a

2839
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:24,710
nose between eyes and ears they're just

2840
02:19:30,850 --> 02:19:27,770
like us it's like you know whoever deed

2841
02:19:36,850 --> 02:19:30,860
us did that yeah but this is something

2842
02:19:39,430 --> 02:19:36,860
we have to one key question here AJ and

2843
02:19:40,930 --> 02:19:39,440
that is aren't we seeing them the way

2844
02:19:43,660 --> 02:19:40,940
they really look I think at the movie

2845
02:19:45,970 --> 02:19:43,670
contact where Jodie Foster sees a tea in

2846
02:19:48,550 --> 02:19:45,980
the form of her late father because et

2847
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:48,560
says you wouldn't be able to accept us

2848
02:19:56,530 --> 02:19:50,690
in our true form are we seeing their

2849
02:20:00,520 --> 02:19:56,540
true form again yesterday 400 times the

2850
02:20:02,620 --> 02:20:00,530
gene has be psychic yes it's also a

2851
02:20:05,381 --> 02:20:02,630
theory that can be taken into

2852
02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:05,391
consideration we are being visited it's

2853
02:20:09,700 --> 02:20:07,610
my understanding of this phenomena after

2854
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:09,710
30 years of investigation we're being

2855
02:20:16,051 --> 02:20:13,210
visited by several the one but by many

2856
02:20:19,211 --> 02:20:16,061
different species with different

2857
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:19,221
interests toward us with it different

2858
02:20:21,881 --> 02:20:20,090
emotion

2859
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:21,891
some of them are more advanced than

2860
02:20:26,020 --> 02:20:23,690
others some of them have already

2861
02:20:28,690 --> 02:20:26,030
contacted others some of them coming

2862
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:28,700
here for this purpose some come for

2863
02:20:35,020 --> 02:20:31,040
other purpose there are those who really

2864
02:20:39,540 --> 02:20:35,030
are interested in our now in our safety

2865
02:20:42,761 --> 02:20:39,550
in our well wellness here in Brazilian

2866
02:20:44,680 --> 02:20:42,771
excuse me here in this planet as well as

2867
02:20:46,780 --> 02:20:44,690
there are civilization who just don't

2868
02:20:51,131 --> 02:20:46,790
care that they come they come here to

2869
02:20:53,950 --> 02:20:51,141
see well the jungles are green the

2870
02:20:56,290 --> 02:20:53,960
oceans are blue fine these people is

2871
02:21:02,080 --> 02:20:56,300
nice but let's go to another planet why

2872
02:21:05,350 --> 02:21:02,090
not that was a good point

2873
02:21:07,511 --> 02:21:05,360
Super Bowl you know they can come from

2874
02:21:10,900 --> 02:21:07,521
the future they can come from other

2875
02:21:13,211 --> 02:21:10,910
planet they can come from this planet in

2876
02:21:15,671 --> 02:21:13,221
the future they can come from other

2877
02:21:18,850 --> 02:21:15,681
planets in the future what is what is

2878
02:21:21,671 --> 02:21:18,860
seems to be very reasonable is that this

2879
02:21:24,610 --> 02:21:21,681
civilization that are coming here at

2880
02:21:26,350 --> 02:21:24,620
least scientifically technologically

2881
02:21:27,540 --> 02:21:26,360
they are more advanced than us it

2882
02:21:30,310 --> 02:21:27,550
doesn't mean that they are

2883
02:21:32,530 --> 02:21:30,320
spiritually morally more invested it's

2884
02:21:34,660 --> 02:21:32,540
likely due they are but I'll tell you

2885
02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:34,670
what I think what since you have to go I

2886
02:21:39,011 --> 02:21:37,250
need you to tell our listeners AJ where

2887
02:21:43,390 --> 02:21:39,021
they can get more information about the

2888
02:21:47,710 --> 02:21:43,400
things you do yes but let me thank you

2889
02:21:51,100 --> 02:21:47,720
for this opportunity again it's always a

2890
02:21:53,710 --> 02:21:51,110
pleasure to to be with you guys and if

2891
02:21:55,631 --> 02:21:53,720
one of our listeners now would like to

2892
02:21:58,750 --> 02:21:55,641
get more information about UFOs in

2893
02:22:03,670 --> 02:21:58,760
Brazil I'm showing some Portuguese but

2894
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:03,680
we have great pictures you can just go

2895
02:22:11,470 --> 02:22:09,200
to UFO comm dot BR dr for brazil and you

2896
02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:11,480
hit our website the website of the

2897
02:22:17,980 --> 02:22:15,370
brazilian uniform and we ask the hugest

2898
02:22:20,680 --> 02:22:17,990
content about ufos in portuguese

2899
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:20,690
language thank you so much a che guevara

2900
02:22:25,810 --> 02:22:22,610
thanks for joining us this week on the

2901
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:25,820
para cast thanks AJ thank you Chris and

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2931
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2932
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2933
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vaults near the Arctic Circle did you

2934
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2935
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could even happen again so our friends

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2993
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[Music]

2994
02:26:59,441 --> 02:26:56,601
you know we haven't done postgame shows

2995
02:27:02,680 --> 02:26:59,451
too often on the podcast with Jean

2996
02:27:05,111 --> 02:27:02,690
Steinberg and Chris O'Brien and we did

2997
02:27:10,781 --> 02:27:05,121
it last week because of aaron kaplan

2998
02:27:13,091 --> 02:27:10,791
being i don't know what drives me nuts

2999
02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:13,101
blowing our martini genie was

3000
02:27:18,041 --> 02:27:15,530
entertaining he was he seems also like a

3001
02:27:19,901 --> 02:27:18,051
really nice guy so whether you accept

3002
02:27:21,821 --> 02:27:19,911
what he says or think it's a load of

3003
02:27:24,821 --> 02:27:21,831
nonsense he was a nice guy

3004
02:27:27,041 --> 02:27:24,831
AJ is a really nice guy too I think is

3005
02:27:30,371 --> 02:27:27,051
with a lot of people that you interview

3006
02:27:33,281 --> 02:27:30,381
they tend to have learned the fine

3007
02:27:36,191 --> 02:27:33,291
politicians art of the filibuster oh

3008
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:36,201
yeah well say I mean it was kind of hard

3009
02:27:41,321 --> 02:27:39,530
to get AJ to answer a direct question we

3010
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:41,331
sort of forced him into it a couple of

3011
02:27:46,661 --> 02:27:44,240
times but boy I tell ya he's very good

3012
02:27:49,511 --> 02:27:46,671
at what he does it's not by accident he

3013
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:49,521
is the bedrock of Brazilian ufology and

3014
02:27:55,121 --> 02:27:52,570
as the editor of the longest published

3015
02:27:58,421 --> 02:27:55,131
continuously published UFO magazine on

3016
02:28:00,220 --> 02:27:58,431
the planet just that alone except for no

3017
02:28:02,621 --> 02:28:00,230
saucer news I didn't bring that up

3018
02:28:05,201 --> 02:28:02,631
because saucer news became saucer smear

3019
02:28:07,571 --> 02:28:05,211
but if you count saucer news as a

3020
02:28:10,901 --> 02:28:07,581
continuous publication that began in

3021
02:28:15,911 --> 02:28:10,911
1954 with Nexus became saucer news

3022
02:28:19,121 --> 02:28:15,921
became saucer smear from 1954 to 2011

3023
02:28:24,091 --> 02:28:19,131
AJ's claim doesn't quite stand well I

3024
02:28:28,991 --> 02:28:24,101
wouldn't exactly call good old Jimbo's

3025
02:28:33,371 --> 02:28:29,001
oh my god Jimbo is more of the insiders

3026
02:28:37,261 --> 02:28:33,381
dirt on the excavation portion of

3027
02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:40,901
I don't think Jim really runs a not nuts

3028
02:28:46,451 --> 02:28:43,730
and bolts type publication like a.j does

3029
02:28:48,941 --> 02:28:46,461
a traditional magazine let's see MUFON

3030
02:28:51,671 --> 02:28:48,951
Journal that goes back to the 60s

3031
02:28:53,861 --> 02:28:51,681
doesn't it that's got to be 40 years or

3032
02:28:55,810 --> 02:28:53,871
so that's been fairly consistent it's

3033
02:29:01,060 --> 02:28:55,820
gone through a couple of names but it's

3034
02:29:03,970 --> 02:29:01,070
been pretty consistent to the same name

3035
02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:03,980
name I think he made he may have a leg

3036
02:29:07,450 --> 02:29:05,330
to stand on because they have not

3037
02:29:09,881 --> 02:29:07,460
changed their name in over 35 years of

3038
02:29:12,671 --> 02:29:09,891
memory serves me correct well okay but

3039
02:29:15,791 --> 02:29:12,681
it's a very narrow leg it's kind of you

3040
02:29:18,610 --> 02:29:15,801
know sniffing at the edges there finds

3041
02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:18,620
no Jesus nation I think you know with AJ

3042
02:29:22,751 --> 02:29:20,450
I always enjoy what he has to say

3043
02:29:25,511 --> 02:29:22,761
obviously he's doing a lot of work but I

3044
02:29:28,211 --> 02:29:25,521
was concerned a little bit when it seems

3045
02:29:31,450 --> 02:29:28,221
that he didn't you know want to follow

3046
02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:31,460
up that question we asked which is okay

3047
02:29:36,461 --> 02:29:34,130
you have the crop circles why aren't you

3048
02:29:38,501 --> 02:29:36,471
sending the samples over it didn't seem

3049
02:29:42,461 --> 02:29:38,511
as if he really nailed that one

3050
02:29:44,801 --> 02:29:42,471
no and didn't wash it all in fact my

3051
02:29:46,990 --> 02:29:44,811
guess is probably because of the

3052
02:29:49,900 --> 02:29:47,000
excitement of having the first real bona

3053
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:49,910
fide case in the country the excitement

3054
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:52,730
was that I don't think they really knew

3055
02:29:58,381 --> 02:29:55,840
what to do or what they should do and

3056
02:30:02,261 --> 02:29:58,391
unfortunately you know in the thrill of

3057
02:30:03,910 --> 02:30:02,271
discovery sometimes and I learned this a

3058
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:03,920
long time ago sometimes you really have

3059
02:30:08,131 --> 02:30:06,530
to up your game to a new level when

3060
02:30:11,171 --> 02:30:08,141
you're you know dealing with a new

3061
02:30:13,511 --> 02:30:11,181
phenomenal report like a like a crop

3062
02:30:15,370 --> 02:30:13,521
circle for the first time and I don't

3063
02:30:17,921 --> 02:30:15,380
care what anybody says you can glean a

3064
02:30:20,350 --> 02:30:17,931
lot of information from soil and plant

3065
02:30:22,841 --> 02:30:20,360
samples a week two weeks down the line

3066
02:30:24,610 --> 02:30:22,851
you know the excuse that though people

3067
02:30:27,461 --> 02:30:24,620
were tramping all over and it rained

3068
02:30:28,780 --> 02:30:27,471
that was all you know if it's a huge

3069
02:30:31,720 --> 02:30:28,790
crop circle I'm sure you're gonna be

3070
02:30:33,370 --> 02:30:31,730
able to find pristine soil and plants

3071
02:30:35,860 --> 02:30:33,380
and weren't disturbed by by foot traffic

3072
02:30:37,780 --> 02:30:35,870
and so what if it rained the next day

3073
02:30:39,970 --> 02:30:37,790
you gathered the samples in time before

3074
02:30:43,810 --> 02:30:39,980
the rain so that part of it didn't quite

3075
02:30:46,301 --> 02:30:43,820
wash for me I like many skeptics out

3076
02:30:48,580 --> 02:30:46,311
there would automatically kind of jump

3077
02:30:51,131 --> 02:30:48,590
to the conclusion that somebody some

3078
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:51,141
performance artist got real motivated

3079
02:30:56,470 --> 02:30:53,210
and went out in the field and you know

3080
02:30:58,240 --> 02:30:56,480
sort of expanded our circle of countries

3081
02:31:01,030 --> 02:30:58,250
that are experiencing these strange

3082
02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:01,040
mysterious crop circles that are here to

3083
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:03,170
give us all these celestial messages

3084
02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:06,080
about how messed up we are and that we

3085
02:31:11,410 --> 02:31:08,870
need to you know all live together and

3086
02:31:13,690 --> 02:31:11,420
sing Kumbaya you know we should sing

3087
02:31:15,700 --> 02:31:13,700
that yes let's just sit down and sing

3088
02:31:23,950 --> 02:31:15,710
and have a great party will invite

3089
02:31:26,290 --> 02:31:23,960
shirley maclaine ladies and gentlemen

3090
02:31:28,990 --> 02:31:26,300
this is the first and last time that

3091
02:31:31,930 --> 02:31:29,000
Chris O'Brien will ever sing on the para

3092
02:31:34,570 --> 02:31:31,940
cast I will not allow even a first time

3093
02:31:37,180 --> 02:31:34,580
for myself I'd let my wife sing she's

3094
02:31:39,850 --> 02:31:37,190
pretty good I was a professional singer

3095
02:31:41,530 --> 02:31:39,860
for a number of years there a guy yeah

3096
02:31:43,091 --> 02:31:41,540
she's really good she says a terrific

3097
02:31:44,530 --> 02:31:43,101
voice she hasn't really you know worked

3098
02:31:46,511 --> 02:31:44,540
that much lately

3099
02:31:49,750 --> 02:31:46,521
in terms of working on her voice but

3100
02:31:56,350 --> 02:31:49,760
it's naturally great yeah I can hear it

3101
02:31:58,180 --> 02:31:56,360
now you get you're starting to sound

3102
02:32:00,671 --> 02:31:58,190
like Jo Anne Worley from the old

3103
02:32:02,110 --> 02:32:00,681
laugh-in show where'd we get started

3104
02:32:05,770 --> 02:32:02,120
with this conversation we're talking

3105
02:32:08,350 --> 02:32:05,780
about UFO sightings in Brazil aj gevaerd

3106
02:32:10,301 --> 02:32:08,360
and all the information he has to

3107
02:32:12,700 --> 02:32:10,311
present but it's interesting how

3108
02:32:15,250 --> 02:32:12,710
governments around the world are very

3109
02:32:16,770 --> 02:32:15,260
similar with the way they handle the so

3110
02:32:20,530 --> 02:32:16,780
called disclosure of UFO information

3111
02:32:24,750 --> 02:32:20,540
they release enough to throw us a bone

3112
02:32:28,270 --> 02:32:24,760
and that's it you know the colores case

3113
02:32:30,940 --> 02:32:28,280
we know from witness accounts and quite

3114
02:32:33,730 --> 02:32:30,950
a number of witnesses just reread

3115
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:33,740
confrontations by jacques valet or bob

3116
02:32:39,761 --> 02:32:36,110
Pratt's book that the Brazilian Air

3117
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:39,771
Force had crack teams of documentarians

3118
02:32:44,921 --> 02:32:42,110
air there's 16 millimeter if I remember

3119
02:32:47,890 --> 02:32:44,931
correctly cameras that filmed incredible

3120
02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:47,900
UFO activity at the mouth of the Amazon

3121
02:32:54,011 --> 02:32:51,050
I want to know where all that footage is

3122
02:32:55,690 --> 02:32:54,021
I mean what did he say at one point 16

3123
02:32:59,740 --> 02:32:55,700
hours I think he said or how many hours

3124
02:33:02,890 --> 02:32:59,750
of footage something new about but

3125
02:33:05,860 --> 02:33:02,900
hadn't seen one single second so yeah if

3126
02:33:07,841 --> 02:33:05,870
that's disclosure I think you're right

3127
02:33:10,210 --> 02:33:07,851
gene they're just throwing us a bone and

3128
02:33:11,171 --> 02:33:10,220
unfortunately if we're not careful we

3129
02:33:13,570 --> 02:33:11,181
might choke on it

3130
02:33:15,190 --> 02:33:13,580
and one of the big questions we'd have

3131
02:33:17,171 --> 02:33:15,200
to ask about that is whether the

3132
02:33:19,330 --> 02:33:17,181
governments around the world behave

3133
02:33:21,610 --> 02:33:19,340
inconsistently about UFO disclosure

3134
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:21,620
except for the u.s. which simply says

3135
02:33:26,770 --> 02:33:25,090
nothing they're all in collusion

3136
02:33:29,890 --> 02:33:26,780
planning this

3137
02:33:32,171 --> 02:33:29,900
maneuver in the expectation of justice

3138
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:32,181
giving you enough information to be able

3139
02:33:37,511 --> 02:33:34,250
to claim we're not hiding any

3140
02:33:39,430 --> 02:33:37,521
information but they are yeah exactly

3141
02:33:42,761 --> 02:33:39,440
and I think a lot of these countries

3142
02:33:45,881 --> 02:33:42,771
disclosure processes have been designed

3143
02:33:48,730 --> 02:33:45,891
to take the heat off the big dog in the

3144
02:33:50,530 --> 02:33:48,740
fight and that is the US military in the

3145
02:33:52,001 --> 02:33:50,540
aerospace companies in this country I

3146
02:33:55,870 --> 02:33:52,011
don't think our government is really

3147
02:33:57,580 --> 02:33:55,880
directly involved in the best cream that

3148
02:34:00,280 --> 02:33:57,590
we have out there in terms of visual

3149
02:34:04,421 --> 02:34:00,290
evidence gun camera footage Minoo

3150
02:34:06,761 --> 02:34:04,431
there's tons of visual evidence that

3151
02:34:08,640 --> 02:34:06,771
we'll never see it will never be given

3152
02:34:12,251 --> 02:34:08,650
the public light of day and

3153
02:34:14,051 --> 02:34:12,261
unfortunately it's just a big ol maypole

3154
02:34:17,620 --> 02:34:14,061
and we're all dancing around paying

3155
02:34:20,591 --> 02:34:17,630
homage to the pole so much for the poles

3156
02:34:22,270 --> 02:34:20,601
of course you know if we were Aaron

3157
02:34:24,310 --> 02:34:22,280
Kaplan there would be the North and

3158
02:34:26,820 --> 02:34:24,320
South Pole and the Great Central Sun

3159
02:34:32,501 --> 02:34:26,830
inside as we go into the Hollow Earth

3160
02:34:34,480 --> 02:34:32,511
operation Highjump baby yeah well I

3161
02:34:36,910 --> 02:34:34,490
don't like it there in any case you know

3162
02:34:39,251 --> 02:34:36,920
it's fun to have AJ people like him on

3163
02:34:41,730 --> 02:34:39,261
because he has collected so many

3164
02:34:44,230 --> 02:34:41,740
important UFO cases done lots of

3165
02:34:46,180 --> 02:34:44,240
investigations I guess you kind of hoped

3166
02:34:49,060 --> 02:34:46,190
that they would do a little bit more in

3167
02:34:50,890 --> 02:34:49,070
terms of the analysis after the initial

3168
02:34:53,860 --> 02:34:50,900
investigations of interviews that's

3169
02:34:55,060 --> 02:34:53,870
where the criticisms are well I think AJ

3170
02:34:58,001 --> 02:34:55,070
missed his calling he would have made a

3171
02:35:00,430 --> 02:34:58,011
great politician I mean he was very good

3172
02:35:02,020 --> 02:35:00,440
at filibustering he really is you know

3173
02:35:03,490 --> 02:35:02,030
and we have a few guests like that you

3174
02:35:06,850 --> 02:35:03,500
know when you ask them a question and

3175
02:35:09,280 --> 02:35:06,860
you get a speech you know and it's like

3176
02:35:11,020 --> 02:35:09,290
politicians go on TV you know he's got

3177
02:35:13,421 --> 02:35:11,030
this information well rehearsed for many

3178
02:35:16,660 --> 02:35:13,431
years he's certainly quite aware of what

3179
02:35:19,001 --> 02:35:16,670
he does how he does it and he there's no

3180
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:19,011
question he's the go-to guy in Brazil I

3181
02:35:23,650 --> 02:35:21,410
mean if I have any questions about a

3182
02:35:25,780 --> 02:35:23,660
Brazilian case I know where I'm gonna go

3183
02:35:28,091 --> 02:35:25,790
it's unfortunate too with all that

3184
02:35:30,970 --> 02:35:28,101
information he doesn't find some

3185
02:35:32,711 --> 02:35:30,980
translators to take some of it and put

3186
02:35:35,530 --> 02:35:32,721
it in English because right now you go

3187
02:35:36,850 --> 02:35:35,540
to a site Brazilian UFO magazine if you

3188
02:35:39,070 --> 02:35:36,860
don't have somebody to translate from

3189
02:35:39,860 --> 02:35:39,080
Portuguese you're in trouble why don't

3190
02:35:41,660 --> 02:35:39,870
they have a

3191
02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:41,670
station software that you can click on

3192
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:43,530
an American flag and have it all like

3193
02:35:48,230 --> 02:35:46,800
you know be posted in English well yeah

3194
02:35:50,780 --> 02:35:48,240
of course it's not a very good

3195
02:35:52,250 --> 02:35:50,790
translation but it's adequate Chris

3196
02:35:54,230 --> 02:35:52,260
O'Brien tell our listeners where they

3197
02:35:58,280 --> 02:35:54,240
can find more of your stuff especially

3198
02:36:01,820 --> 02:35:58,290
that special DVD set on disclosure right

3199
02:36:04,220 --> 02:36:01,830
well go to our strange planet comm we

3200
02:36:06,860 --> 02:36:04,230
are going into phase 2 of our you know

3201
02:36:08,690 --> 02:36:06,870
push to get this disclosure dialog

3202
02:36:12,770 --> 02:36:08,700
project out to the public it's a 5-dvd

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set it is the definitive document visual

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course I'm one of the few people who

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don't think it's gonna happen but

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someone's got to be a bad guy in the

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mean time you can find me on at the

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